nice! that's good news.
yeah I was thinking about delidding.
could get one of those 3dprinted delidders off ebay for 30bucks or so... or just try the razor blade (looks hard tho).
I use a big air cooler.
forget the name of the brand but it's a huge one with black thermal paint and dual fans.
pretty sure it's top of the line for air.
the problem is that I get errors/crashes when I try to lower volts.
I think I'm at like 1.45-1.5 v range.
As long as the temps are good when rendering you have no problem. How long does it take to reach maximum temp when rendering? It should peak in 2-5 minutes. If it takes longer it is probably because your case is not flowing cool air to cooler intake and not removing heated cooler exhaust. "Ways to Better Cooling" link in my sig might be of interest. 1st post is index, click on topic to read it. 5th is a good place to start.
That is wonderful news!
i just tested it for about 8min render time full render. and it maxed at about 91c.
which is well below the limit for that cpu I believe.
no errors in prime either. although it does hit a max of 104c ... :\ 4.44ghz
91c is too hot! .. about 15-20c. too hot.
Your CPU is throttling trying to keep temps down at 100c to 105c, but most people consider 80c to be maximum safe operating temp.
I asked you what your air temps are,but you seem to have ignored me. Not answering my questions means I will stop answering you.
240MHz is really worth this? You need way more voltage than is safe with a 3570K to get it to this speed, and are cooking the CPU. For 240MHz....that will not even be noticeable in real world usage....
91c is too hot! .. about 15-20c. too hot.
Your CPU is throttling trying to keep temps down at 100c to 105c, but most people consider 80c to be maximum safe operating temp.
I asked you what your air temps are,but you seem to have ignored me. Not answering my questions means I will stop answering you.
240MHz is really worth this? You need way more voltage than is safe with a 3570K to get it to this speed, and are cooking the CPU. For 240MHz....that will not even be noticeable in real world usage....
xigmatek dark knight 2 cooler .
it's definitely a voltage tuning issue.
and i might just have a crappy chip that doesn't oc well.
basically i'm a noob at oc, and not good at tuning the values well.
basically at 4.4-4.5ghz i get errors in prime testing at anything under 1.45v.. or something like that...
I don't remember if it was EXACTLY 1.45v .. hehe.
I have a nice case with lots of airflow in/out. 3 fan dk2 cooler (2fans on cooler, 1 on exit of case).
tons of big fans taking air in.. etc..
xigmatek dark knight 2 cooler .
it's definitely a voltage tuning issue.
and i might just have a crappy chip that doesn't oc well.
basically i'm a noob at oc, and not good at tuning the values well.
basically at 4.4-4.5ghz i get errors in prime testing at anything under 1.45v.. or something like that...
I don't remember if it was EXACTLY 1.45v .. hehe.
I have a nice case with lots of airflow in/out. 3 fan dk2 cooler (2fans on cooler, 1 on exit of case).
tons of big fans taking air in.. etc..
While Dark Knight is a decent cooler there are others that will cool 5-10c better.
Nice case with '3 fan' / 1 on exit' / 'tons of big fans' does not mean you have good airflow. Fact are a case only flows as much as the smaller of case venting / fans .. intake or exhaust. This means if you have 5x intake fans and only 1x exhaust fan with 2x more vents with no fans your case is maybe flowing 2.5 fans of airflow .. and that is optimistic. It also does not mean the airflow is supplying coolers with just intake air and not a mix of cool intake and heated exhaust air from components .. meaning heated is trying to do the cooling, not cool air..
While Dark Knight is a decent cooler there are others that will cool 5-10c better.
Nice case with '3 fan' / 1 on exit' / 'tons of big fans' does not mean you have good airflow. Fact are a case only flows as much as the smaller of case venting / fans .. intake or exhaust. This means if you have 5x intake fans and only 1x exhaust fan with 2x more vents with no fans your case is maybe flowing 2.5 fans of airflow .. and that is optimistic. It also does not mean the airflow is supplying coolers with just intake air and not a mix of cool intake and heated exhaust air from components .. meaning heated is trying to do the cooling, not cool air..
This. Just because you have a bunch of fans blowing on hot stuff doesn't make your cooling situation necessarily optimal. That said sometimes depending on your chip you just have tone an OC down a bit.
Its not worth killing your chip for an extra 300mhz or whatever if you have to run a crazy voltage through it and your temps are 10C above what they should be.
Gotcha. well i'm pretty sure it's a voltage issue for the most part.
I don't think any air cooling solution would do much for my chip...
nor would I waste $$ on water when it's primarily crappy settings.
Most of the settings are on auto at the moment fyi.
Gotcha. well i'm pretty sure it's a voltage issue for the most part.
I don't think any air cooling solution would do much for my chip...
nor would I waste $$ on water when it's primarily crappy settings.
Most of the settings are on auto at the moment fyi.
Gotcha. well i'm pretty sure it's a voltage issue for the most part.
I don't think any air cooling solution would do much for my chip...
nor would I waste $$ on water when it's primarily crappy settings.
Most of the settings are on auto at the moment fyi.
ALSO I should note that these OC increases are actually a DRASTIC increase in rendering performance.
I just put it back to 3.6ghz until I sort out my voltage/heat issues. And the difference is literally a rendering making me angry or making me happy...
it's that bad.
I forgot for a minute that I had downclocked it and thought my computer was broken, hahaha.
ALSO I should note that these OC increases are actually a DRASTIC increase in rendering performance.
I just put it back to 3.6ghz until I sort out my voltage/heat issues. And the difference is literally a rendering making me angry or making me happy...
it's that bad.
I forgot for a minute that I had downclocked it and thought my computer was broken, hahaha.
You need to read an understand what is being posted. People said 240MHz drop is not a noticeable speed difference, but does not need near as much voltage so much less heat is generated. You drop back from 4.5 to 3.6GHz is going and complain about how much difference it is .. Of course it is .. it's a huge difference. 900MHz change is 3.75 times as much as 240MHz.
You need to read an understand what is being posted. People said 240MHz drop is not a noticeable speed difference, but does not need near as much voltage so much less heat is generated. You drop back from 4.5 to 3.6GHz is going and complain about how much difference it is .. Of course it is .. it's a huge difference. 900MHz change is 3.75 times as much as 240MHz.
no no no. you missread what I wrote.
I said I dropped it back to 3.6 just TEMPORARILY while I sort out my settings and stuff.
I plan on aiming for 4.4 now..
unless I can figure out some way to get it to stay stable at 4.5 with less volts somehow.
I'll go play with settings now
that's all well and good but I just spent 10 minutes trying to find intels recommendation to no avail..
I even found that they usually say "nocomment"
sooo.. you seem pretty confident, care to share your source??
that's all well and good but I just spent 10 minutes trying to find intels recommendation to no avail..
I even found that they usually say "nocomment"
sooo.. you seem pretty confident, care to share your source??
no no no. you missread what I wrote.
I said I dropped it back to 3.6 just TEMPORARILY while I sort out my settings and stuff.
I plan on aiming for 4.4 now..
unless I can figure out some way to get it to stay stable at 4.5 with less volts somehow.
I'll go play with settings now
I suggest you stop before you dig your hole even deeper.
I read what you posted and you did not just back off your overclock 240-360MHZ to lower voltage and heat to reasonable levels .. you dumped the overcock completely .. and that was not what people were suggesting.
ALSO I should note that these OC increases are actually a DRASTIC increase in rendering performance. I just put it back to 3.6ghz until I sort out my voltage/heat issues. And the difference is literally a rendering making me angry
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