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thank you.
that's the info I got.

ALSO I should note that these OC increases are actually a DRASTIC increase in rendering performance.
I just put it back to 3.6ghz until I sort out my voltage/heat issues. And the difference is literally a rendering making me angry or making me happy...
it's that bad.

I forgot for a minute that I had downclocked it and thought my computer was broken, hahaha.
You need to read an understand what is being posted. People said 240MHz drop is not a noticeable speed difference, but does not need near as much voltage so much less heat is generated. You drop back from 4.5 to 3.6GHz is going and complain about how much difference it is .. Of course it is .. it's a huge difference. 900MHz change is 3.75 times as much as 240MHz.
post #22 of 30
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

You need to read an understand what is being posted. People said 240MHz drop is not a noticeable speed difference, but does not need near as much voltage so much less heat is generated. You drop back from 4.5 to 3.6GHz is going and complain about how much difference it is .. Of course it is .. it's a huge difference. 900MHz change is 3.75 times as much as 240MHz.

no no no. you missread what I wrote.
I said I dropped it back to 3.6 just TEMPORARILY while I sort out my settings and stuff.

I plan on aiming for 4.4 now..
unless I can figure out some way to get it to stay stable at 4.5 with less volts somehow.
I'll go play with settings now smile.gif
post #23 of 30
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Originally Posted by nepas View Post

Eh?.Have a look at the ivy overclocking guide here on OCN.The max is 1.52.

cdn.overclock.net/3/31/31e58fed_volts.png


1.4-1.45 is the max that most run.

Oh, well if all the kids are doing it, then it must be a good idea. I'm sure they know better they know better than Intel.

Just because people are cooking their chips doesn't make it right or safe.
post #24 of 30
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that's all well and good but I just spent 10 minutes trying to find intels recommendation to no avail..
I even found that they usually say "nocomment"
sooo.. you seem pretty confident, care to share your source??
post #25 of 30
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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

Oh, well if all the kids are doing it, then it must be a good idea. I'm sure they know better they know better than Intel.

Just because people are cooking their chips doesn't make it right or safe.
that's all well and good but I just spent 10 minutes trying to find intels recommendation to no avail..
I even found that they usually say "nocomment"
sooo.. you seem pretty confident, care to share your source??
post #26 of 30
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Originally Posted by tad2 View Post

no no no. you missread what I wrote.
I said I dropped it back to 3.6 just TEMPORARILY while I sort out my settings and stuff.

I plan on aiming for 4.4 now..
unless I can figure out some way to get it to stay stable at 4.5 with less volts somehow.
I'll go play with settings now smile.gif
I suggest you stop before you dig your hole even deeper. helpinghand.gif
I read what you posted and you did not just back off your overclock 240-360MHZ to lower voltage and heat to reasonable levels .. you dumped the overcock completely .. and that was not what people were suggesting.
ALSO I should note that these OC increases are actually a DRASTIC increase in rendering performance. I just put it back to 3.6ghz until I sort out my voltage/heat issues. And the difference is literally a rendering making me angry
post #27 of 30
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

I suggest you stop before you dig your hole even deeper. helpinghand.gif
I read what you posted and you did not just back off your overclock 240-360MHZ to lower voltage and heat to reasonable levels .. you dumped the overcock completely .. and that was not what people were suggesting.
ALSO I should note that these OC increases are actually a DRASTIC increase in rendering performance. I just put it back to 3.6ghz until I sort out my voltage/heat issues. And the difference is literally a rendering making me angry
hahaha ok.
well no worries, my mobo has quick OC settings.
I just switched it from "performance" to "normal"
post #28 of 30
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hahaha ok.
well no worries, my mobo has quick OC settings.
I just switched it from "performance" to "normal"

Just remember a good OC takes some time. It takes a bit of tweaking and its all part of the fun of it. The guys around here are great and they can help you out.

Auto OCing tools can help you find a target maybe, but I wouldn't run them 24/7. Just remember just because someone else can hit a certain frequency doesn't mean you will. All chips are made different and your chip just might not be the magical one you are looking for.
    
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If you want your processor to last a long time, stay under 1.35V for 24/7 operation.
    
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You are using way too much voltage for that clock speed. 4.5ghz should be attainable with 1.35v or less. Going over 1.35v without delidding the 3570k, will typically skyrocket temps, even with good cooling.

Start with 4.2ghz, 1.25v.

Loop overclock cpu:

Stress test

if stable for a short run (15-20 mins), bump up 100mhz.

else raise voltage 2 notches.

Repeat

When you get to a point that temperature or voltage is too high, you know you have reached your limit.

Record the voltages that you pass at a given speed, go back and test longer at those speeds/voltage. You will get a general scaling for what the cpu is capable of.

My 3570k ran 4.5ghz at 1.27v, 4.6 at 1.32v, 4.7 at 1.38v. 4.7 I couldn't run under 85c with a custom loop... and got essentially the same temperature that I did with an aio, so the cpu would need to be delidded to run that speed regularly.

I gave my 3570k setup to my nephew and installed a thermalright macho b on it, he got roughly the same temps as my old cooling setup at 4.5ghz.
Edited by EMUracing - 4/30/17 at 11:09pm
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