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Well, the GPU temperature is in a good standing and it isn't that hot or thermally throttling.
I seriously don't know what I'm doing wrong here...

Based on what i'm seeing there, and what is typical of laptop GPU's is insufficient memory bandwidth. You might be better served seeing how high you can get the memory bandwidth. From what i can see neither the GPU cores, the the CPU cores are being fully utilized which indicates the bottleneck is somewhere else. Laptops has pretty low clocked GDDR so i would look into pushing that a bit more, and see if that has better results.
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Based on what i'm seeing there, and what is typical of laptop GPU's is insufficient memory bandwidth. You might be better served seeing how high you can get the memory bandwidth. From what i can see neither the GPU cores, the the CPU cores are being fully utilized which indicates the bottleneck is somewhere else. Laptops has pretty low clocked GDDR so i would look into pushing that a bit more, and see if that has better results.


This is what I get when I overclock Core clock +135Mhz, Memory clock +600 Mhz


When overclocking memory over 600Mhz PC starts to lag and the image/screen is starting to tear apart.

Does this mean that my GPU is not capable of being overclocked?

I've seen youtube videos where overclocking the GTX 950m you gain an fps boost. :/
Either I'm stupid or this GPU is not meant to be overclocked doh.gif
Edited by fenixx3 - 4/26/17 at 4:28am
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116mem is the highest I can go with my 970m. or it reverts back to zero. Dunno why.

But anyways I see a difference in overclocking vs normal while playing call of duty games with sync disabled and fps unlocked.

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Also u can overclock the monitor which will help.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/psa-you-can-now-overclock-your-laptop-monitor-intel-intel-optimus.802167/

That is if your laptop is optimus,
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You only have 2GB of Vram on that card. My 960M has 4GB and I notice it every day in games pushing well above the 2GB point. That's probably the biggest reason for why you aren't seeing a huge difference. I know in FO4, on stock settings I get like... 25-30 fps on ultra, no AA. Overclocked as it is in my sig, I see around 35-45fps usually, depending on what's happening.

But just know you're going to struggle to play on Ultra for most modern day games. 2GB Vram is NOT enough for highest settings anymore. It's just not.


EDIT:

Also just be aware you CAN overclock just fine on most gaming laptops. The whole "hurr durr laptops already throttle under basic load so you can't overclock" way of thinking might've been correct back in the early 2000s but today, a gaming machine doesn't break much higher than a desktop GPU with a blower-style cooler. tongue.gif Keep in mind that it's also a key of the silicon lottery too, being aware that you may or may not be able to push too much more through that card. I got kinda unlucky with my 960M from what I can tell. Most people could get +750mhz on the memory in MSI afterburner whereas I can barely get +400mhz. Maxing out the core clock is typical really.


But yeah your issue is that your GPU is being held back by your Vram allocation. 2GB isn't enough anymore. In GTA 5, you're sitting right at 2GB just about all the time. That's proof right there.
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It just makes me sad seeing people running games on the same card as I do with the overclocking. sad-smiley-002.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUmSHd7-xpU For example, this guy gets here more than 20-30fps, where I get like 8-13fps with overclocking on ULTRA. :/


Anyways, thank you all for your help and suggestions! smile.gif
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It just makes me sad seeing people running games on the same card as I do with the overclocking. sad-smiley-002.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUmSHd7-xpU For example, this guy gets here more than 20-30fps, where I get like 8-13fps with overclocking on ULTRA. :/


Anyways, thank you all for your help and suggestions! smile.gif

Did you shut off Anti-Aliasing? Because yes, he's running Ultra on all those games, AA is completely OFF for him. That's a huge performance killer for cards that don't have a lot of memory bandwidth.

Also, don't expect 20 fps averages to be seen as playable. Maybe for someone who enjoys a choppy experience, sure, but I played through DOOM on lowest and game looked gorgeous... so playing on Ultra is kinda overrated, and I've got a more powerful GPU than you. :3
     
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