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I know its a difficult task but I think A/V companies have lost the way. Its all about the money now. We see zero day attacks , randsomware , adwares and other malicious items get into your computer and still they advertise that they are the "complete" solution to everything.
A little more humble would not hurt.

Well thats advertising for ya. Know one is going to buy an A/V solution with the slogan "it works...most of the time" or "Most Anti Virus programs suck; we are kinda better."
    
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I never said it was perfect, I never implied it either, I only stated it was IMO the least intrusive, which is irrelevant to what I feel you think I'm saying. I never get any popups, I never anything, just a silent protection that I can control via a web interface on all PCs I have it installed on. That means I can check my parents PC from 600 miles away without needing to log on their pc smile.gif

It's great that you found a product that works for you. I never implied that its not a good product. I have KIS on my customers PC's and rarely have problems.
But when it comes to customers who browse pr0n ,crack sites or open every mail attachment they get then nothing will protect them.
Not to mention state sponsored malware which find the way in the wild.
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Just my 2cents.gif, I've been using Avira Pro (beta edition, so its essentially free) and its rather pedantic on default settings. It will flag and block almost everything semi-suspect. I haven't had any known infections in over a year. I have lived in China for the last 3 1/2 years, and the bloatware/rubbish you see on people's computers here is just crazy. Every USB that I have been given here has had files that were flagged or blocked for malicious reasons. So I am in full support of having at least some form of protection.
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As sad as this is... still a bit funny. The only experience I have with webroot is actually similar to this. The PC it was installed on had corrupted Windows or broken services or something to that effect. When I uninstalled it, started working fine. So it's pretty much garbage as far as I'm concerned.
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That's a bit of a stretch to assume that don't you think? I'm one of those people and I haven't been infected in over 10 years due to not being an idiot and maintaining a solid firewall. I'm not saying it can't happen to me but that it hasn't.

If you haven't used an antivirus in 10 years, how in the world would you know if you were infected or not?
    
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If you haven't used an antivirus in 10 years, how in the world would you know if you were infected or not?

Schrodinger antivirus. You aren't infected until you find out you are. Same principle with backing up files with NTFS: "I have 8 zillion terabytes of data backed up to NTFS and I never had one single corruption."
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If you haven't used an antivirus in 10 years, how in the world would you know if you were infected or not?

Usually, viruses have symptoms...such as a slow as hell computer...or an "FBI" warning telling you that you have to pay $ to unlock your computer, unusually high CPU usage for the tasks being performed (such as idling) unusual traffic passing through your modem (resulting in slow for no reason internet), etc.

If you're relatively well versed in these things you can get a general feel for how your computer runs virus free compared to when something is wrong. Through diagnosis of the issue you root out whether it's a virus/malware problem so it's not unfeasible that you could "eyeball it" though you need to have good internet surfing and downloading practices along with adblockers+friends to be relatively secure.

Most viruses these days get on your computer because you screwed up and downloaded something you shouldn't have or by clicking hyper links in your emails.
Everything else is just mal/spyware which accumulates due to not using a good adblocker+visiting websites that don't screen the people renting billboard space on their banners.

Of course there's always exceptions, such as living in China and plugging in USB drives from people who clearly have no idea how to responsibly handle a computer.
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You forgot drive-by infections. Not nearly as common as the rest of those things you mentioned, but also much harder to protect against without A/V. An ad blocker won't help.
    
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You forgot drive-by infections. Not nearly as common as the rest of those things you mentioned, but also much harder to protect against without A/V. An ad blocker won't help.

 

I thought that was implied by "downloaded something you shouldn't have or by clicking hyper links in your emails". The most common vectors for drive-by infections are visiting unknown links in a vulnerable browser commonly delivered through Ads or Email.

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I thought that was implied by "downloaded something you shouldn't have or by clicking hyper links in your emails". The most common vectors for drive-by infections are visiting unknown links in a vulnerable browser commonly delivered through Ads or Email.

Yes, but those are not the only vectors. Legitimate websites can be compromised and start serving up things you didn't want.
    
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