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Overall most stable Non Elite X370 Board ?

post #1 of 5
Thread Starter 
I know that as of now pretty much every board is subject to bugs, however I cannot really tell which board(s) seems to provide the overall most stable environnent / CPU + RAM OC. We're almost 2 months post release, a manufacturer must have shown some noticeable premium updates compared to the other ones...

Again I'm talking about the non elite boards, sub 200$ range.

Also If I buy a QVL 3200MHz RAM, is it supposed to work flawlessly at 3200MHz ? Any of you had problems with QVL supported RAM ? Which Non Elite boards have shown the fewest problems with QVL RAMs ?

Anyone ? I'm spending hours and hours reading specs etc. But afa the BIOSes are conceirned I really don't know which model benefits from the most breakthroughs since launch, which model has the overall best BIOS etc.
post #2 of 5
Hello,
Im sorry... sometimes i don´t understand this forum...
There are so many ppl that have some knowledge and they just ignore new topics...

It seems that so far all the boards all at the same stand still...
Even the premium ones are having a lot of problems with memorys (thats the main problem of all the Ryzen boards so far).

Of non premium products you have the MSI Carbon, the Asus Prime and the Gigabyte Gaming 5.

They are very close to each other... so in the end choose the one that have the best specs you need and the looks that you like...

Also for the ram... just get one that is cheapest for the 3200mhz... Probably even with "certified" 3200mhz ram, you might not get the board to boot at 3200mhz...

I for example have the Corsair LPX 3200mhz Cl16 that is very recomended, and i can´t even put it at 29xx mhz... im runing it at 2666mhz until the new AGESA is released by AMD in MAY.

So my advise is... focus on the OC of the CPU and leave the memory speeds in cold storage until there are more certified in the microcode of the boards...

Best Regards,

LPC
post #3 of 5
Gigabyte Gaming 5 is close to premium pricing already since it's $190ish usually.

The X370 MSI Pro Carbon is also close to premium pricing with $180 MSRP.

If you're talking about "non-premium" you likely mean the $130-140 Asrock X370 Killer SLI , Asrock X370 Fatal1ty K4 , MSI X370 SLI Plus and POSSIBLY the $160 Asus X370 Prime Pro. These boards have a marginal price increase over $80-110 B350 boards.

If memory is your sole concern then you don't really need an X370 board. Memory speed is highly dependent on the CPU's integrated memory controller and the memory chips on the RAM you buy. That's why people (and AMD) have suggested to use Samsung B-die RAM. If you buy RAM on the QVL you will likely be able to hit the speed if your CPU's IMC doesn't hold it back.

P.S. Corsair LPX 3200mhz Cl16 is not highly recommended , that is likely Hynix. You will want Corsair DDR4 3600MHz CL18. (see http://www.overclock.net/t/1627555/ryzen-memory-ic-collection-thread)
Edited by AlphaC - 4/26/17 at 7:50pm
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post #4 of 5
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your answers !

Tbqh I do not really mind buying a Crosshair VI or w/e fancy board out there.

I'd just like to keep my purchases as justified as possible. I target X370 mainly for the power phases/stable OC quality. I don't think the VRM count/quality on a typical B350 budget board is reasonable for a 8c/16t type processor.



Hope Zen+ and Zen++ remain compatible with AM4 so the investment is worthwhile.
post #5 of 5
i was an early adopter and had ram dilema spend the extra $$ buy the Gskill Flare X 3200mhz cl14 16gb kit it just works without problems but at a premium that i think is worth it.....

most if not all 3200mhz cl14 kits do work from what i hear and do not use more than 2 sticks of ram
im on a ASUS prime X370 pro
it works after some tinkering and isnt in my opinion 100% stable yet
as with all boards you may need 0.950-1.0v SOC voltage to run 3200mhz

the elite boards do let u change the bus speeds that does help overclocking smile.gif
not really needed

i cant speak for any other board but i can speak for gskill flare X 3200mhz ram
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