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I just picked up the asus 240hz monitor. Big upgrade from my old monitor even in terms of color and everything.

I play a lot of Overwatch and while I can get above 240fps with my gtx 1060, I do not always stay up there. FPS takes a lot of hits while fighting. Simply for maintaining a more steady fps, as well as smoother gameplay in Guildwars2, would it make sense for me to upgrade to the 7700k? My 3570k is OC'd to 4.5ghz. I would bring the 7700k to 4.9-5

Thank you
Edited by jeffxx - 4/26/17 at 2:18pm
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At high refresh rates the card comes more into play. Get a 1080 ~ 1080Ti or a second 1060 in SLI. A CPU will not make a bigger difference then GPU grunt. Keeping 240Hz will be difficult no matter.
 
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At high refresh rates the card comes more into play. Get a 1080 ~ 1080Ti or a second 1060 in SLI. A CPU will not make a bigger difference then GPU grunt. Keeping 240Hz will be difficult no matter.

The CPU needs to prepare frames for the GPU which means the CPU is just as or even more important at higher refresh rates. When his 1060 becomes the bottleneck he can just lower some settings, you can't do that as effectively if the CPU is the bottleneck. The 7700k combined with fast memory is the best you can buy at this moment if you're trying to keep 240fps minimums.


Overwatch specifically likes more threads even if they're just hyperthreads. It's not uncommon for an i5 to see 100% usage and still drop below 200fps in this game. The same can be said about BF1.


Edited by Derp - 4/26/17 at 7:08pm
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That 3570K at 4.5GHz is not bottlenecking a 1060. Even a 8370 is giving out 171 fps and it does not say what card they are using.

Either way a 7700K and a 1060 will not be faster then a 3570K at 4.5Ghz with SLI 1060 or a Ti and I don't think a 3570K at 4.5Ghz will be a bottleneck with a 1060 SLI or Ti.

I mean how much faster is a 4770K what 5% and you can use that with a Ti no prob and it will definitely not bottleneck a 1060 SLI and nor does it bottleneck my 290s.

Yes a faster CPU is better but a faster GPU is best.
 
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That 3570K at 4.5GHz is not bottlenecking a 1060. Even a 8370 is giving out 171 fps and it does not say what card they are using.

Either way a 7700K and a 1060 will not be faster then a 3570K at 4.5Ghz with SLI 1060 or a Ti and I don't think a 3570K at 4.5Ghz will be a bottleneck with a 1060 SLI or Ti.

I mean how much faster is a 4770K what 5% and you can use that with a Ti no prob and it will definitely not bottleneck a 1060 SLI and nor does it bottleneck my 290s.

Yes a faster CPU is better but a faster GPU is best.

I'm sorry but you're just flat out wrong here. A second 1060 would allow higher quality settings but his 3570k is bottlenecking his minimum and maximum fps. That test above is with a Titan X Pascal.
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People can get frantic over these things I know. But that minimum could have been a one hit thing and for the rest of the time the FPS could have hovered around the average as in that graph.

Least painful option right now, is a second 1060. Down the road, he will have to upgrade the whole system if he wants to feed that 240Hz monitor properly. A 7700K and a 1060 won't do it either.
 
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post #7 of 13
Sounds like a $500 upgrade either way. I'd pick 7700k. Down the road you can sell the 1060 and always get a better card.
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I have an h80 cpu cooler currently. Would I need to upgrade that? Not even sure if it would fit on the 7700k mobo. if it would fit then I can upgrade for about $550
post #9 of 13
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A 7700K and a 1060 won't do it either.

YES IT WILL.

That test above is at ultra quality. Lower the settings and even lower the render scale to 75% if needed and a single 1060 can produce 240FPS minimum most of the time. I'm starting to think you haven't played much of this game.
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I can hit the frames I need but I can't hold them. That's the problem.

I also play other games that are CPU intensive (h1z1, guildwars2, pubg)
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