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Is there really an alternative, though? Who else would end up being an expert in telecom?

Ohhh....

Like an actual electrical engineer that specializes in RF? I would start by looking for someone at Stanford Research, NASA, or anywhere else that has actual experts.

Hell, I am more qualified to head the FCC than Ajit is - he is a Lawyer, at least I had some time in the industry.

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If I am more qualified than he than that just means there are millions of other more qualified people to choose from. As I set the bar pretty damn low.
    
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Ohhh....

Like an actual electrical engineer that specializes in RF? I would start by looking for someone at Stanford Research, NASA, or anywhere else that has actual experts.

Hell, I am more qualified to head the FCC than Ajit is - he is a Lawyer, at least I had some time in the industry.

EDIT:

If I am more qualified than he than that just means there are millions of other more qualified people to choose from. As I set the bar pretty damn low.

Well, let's take myself as an example then. I'm a trained optical engineer, and I have familiarity with fiber optic components and systems. But unless I go work for an actual ISP, I'm not going to understand what they do well enough to know what the impact will be on their systems of anything I might propose. You could go find a professor at a university doing research in fiber optics instead, like say the professor who taught me. Guess what he did before being a professor? He was head of Deutsche Telekom's photonics division for 15 years.

The "revolving door" aspect should definitely be curtailed, and the incentive to help out your former employer carefully managed and overseen, but as far as pool of talent goes, if you rule out anyone who has ever worked for the major telecom players you don't leave much else.

But yeah, Pai is a total shill. He's a political appointee, out to push a specific agenda, not do what's best for the nation.
Edited by Mand12 - 5/1/17 at 1:37pm
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Whoa bro!!! Are you implying that we shouldn't blindly trust the benevolent guidance of the free market's invisible hand?! At the end of the day, the "free" market is always above contempt, and, after all, is ultimately steered by the decisions of infallible human actors, so the invisible hand ALWAYS prizes the common good above special interests! I mean, just leave mega multinational city state corporations alone, stop bullying them! With no oversight, they would definitely have the best interests of the most average base consumer at heart at all times. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?
No one wants to live in anarchy. It's really that simple. That basic fact, though, is hidden behind layers and layers of cognitive dissonance instilled by relentless propaganda.

Why? Because some people try, via their corporations in particular, to ruin others' lives for their personal gain.

We're supposed to want to emulate those people because they're "successful" — to the point of even worshiping them. I just watched an exhibition match with Roger Federer partnering Bill Gates and John Isner with some old rocker with a paunch. The grinning woman who interviewed grinning Federer... The joyous commentators... The gleaming happy faces in the crowd... The whole thing smelled too much like North Korea. What that spectacle was was money worship.

It was, on the surface, a charity event for Africa. The more charity is needed the more economic corruption exists. The low-grade tennis ability of Bill Gates (and Roger Federer dumping slow balls into the net) is not something people need to have rapturous faces about unless they have unusually low IQs. Americans are trained to think they're above all that — the Orwellian scary mentality of Stalinism or North Korea. And yet, here it is, for anyone to see, on the Tennis Channel — the Great Benevolent Billionaire and multi-millionaires who have set up foundations out of the kindness of their hearts.

I'm sure Gates isn't such a bad guy but I'm not about to worship him because he was able to scam people out of so many billions. Similarly, Roger Federer obviously has a lot of athletic talent but it doesn't make him a superior person because he jumps around in photo ops with African kids. The whole thing was a sordid boring experience, filled with plastic, on-demand, joy — based on the false pretense that the whole thing somehow fixes the highly-corrupt economics involved. This tennis nonsense is hardly the only example of billionaire worship propaganda. There was a thing a few years back where a whole bunch of them did an ad campaign: The Benevolent Billionaires Club (not what it was actually called, but close enough).

Until people start being honest about money worship we're going to continue to see plenty of corruption, whether it's the Internet being degraded or something else. That people have been successfully convinced that anarchy is the model of ideal living (the "free" market concept) says a lot about how likely we are to see much improvement in the near future. Of course, on the flip side, we have a case of Russia's largest oil company owner opposing Putin and being stripped of his wealth and jailed for a decade. So, just confiscating wealth isn't going to guarantee a lack of corruption. It's not enough, regardless, to have to rely on the randomly benevolent billionaire to oppose corruption. And yet, like the prospect winning the lottery, that's what we're supposed to put our faith into — governance by the very few, ultra-elite, people — who may or may not be benevolent.
Edited by superstition222 - 5/1/17 at 3:57pm
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Making sweeping and unprovable assertions like "no one wants to live in anarchy" and labeling them as 'facts' (while simultaneously conflating all forms of anarchy with chaos and capitalism, a demonstrably false claim) does your argument no favors.
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Ohhh....

Like an actual electrical engineer that specializes in RF? I would start by looking for someone at Stanford Research, NASA, or anywhere else that has actual experts.

Hell, I am more qualified to head the FCC than Ajit is - he is a Lawyer, at least I had some time in the industry.

EDIT:

If I am more qualified than he than that just means there are millions of other more qualified people to choose from. As I set the bar pretty damn low.

I hate to agree with you but when ur right ur right. smile.gif
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It isn't that confusing. Look at all the major government regulator bodies and they are staffed like a revolving door for those they are supposed to regulate. The FCC hires "experts" that just so happen to be from Verizon or another telecommunications company or lobby interest group. The FDA is just as bad with how it is funded entirely by the very industry it is supposed to be regulating.
^This. Also the legal industry, or government pork, or useless busyness like a lot of military actions have been, or both sides of the aisle working together to rack up the debt in the name of current and future citizens.

Gov could be good if it were cleaner. Less bad if smaller. I don't know how to get it cleaner but smaller is easy to understand.
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Gov could be good if it were cleaner. Less bad if smaller. I don't know how to get it cleaner but smaller is easy to understand.

All the other noise (political back and forth) restricts people from acknowledging this obvious truth.
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What gets me is how the hell did Pai even get into office? He blatantly has conflict of interest plastered all over him given his background...
The issue is a lot more deeply routed than the symptom of Pai being...well, Pai and net neutrality.

The mechanisms which are used to ensure a proper, functioning system are being circumvented which is leading to problems such as this.

Wheeler had the same sort of conflict of interest if you'll recall.
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Wheeler had the same sort of conflict of interest if you'll recall.
This is correct, but Wheeler defied expectations and went against his roots by trying to regulate the industry instead of kowtowing to it. Pai is living up to all expectations of corruption and ignorance so far, and then some, and is giving no indication he'll change course.
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