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Just because it's a non xeon part doesn't make it a "gaming chip"... and I'd say a 5ghz 7700k is more fitting for that role.

I think they were just comparing to 6900K/6950X because of core count. Obviously Broadwell-E was AMD's target competition for the 1800X/1700X/1700 which is why they were carefully compared the way they were. We all know the 7700K is the fastest pure gaming chip but its only really comparable to the R7's in price. Nobody should really be buying either Broadwell-E or R7 series for only gaming.
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Oh poor Intel, people aren't willing to put up with stupidly increasing prices with nearly identical performance and core counts. What a bummer, Intel is going to miss its profit targets. The worst part is that they're acting like this is a surprise, like people would put up with this nonsense indefinitely.

Looking at these boards it's obvious a lot of people have and will put up with this nonsense.

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Honestly CPU prices aren't THAT bad for what it is. It is a piece of hardware that will last close to 5 years or so, a few hundred is nothing for that.
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http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-versus-amd-ryzen-1700x-14-game-cpu-showdown_192508

Not quite sure what to make of this. I'm planning a new build to replace my 2500k/680 rig, and like I did with that one, I'm keen to get 4-5 years out of the CPU. The 8 core 1800x is quite promising if these figures hold up against the 7700k, yet Skylake-X and Cannonlake is jsut around the corner. Either way, it's great to see AMD forcing change and innovation.
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Look at how arrogant the blue is. Looks like they need more kick at the butt!
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I think the current problem with AMD is the prices in countries outside the US. Cheapest Ryzen 7 + motherboard costs more than 5820k+x99 in the country I live in, while Ryzen 5 1600x sells for only 20$ cheaper than 7700k. Once they do not fix that the interest in Ryzen chips will definitely be low and will not push intel to drop prices. And don't forget that many people like to overclock and Ryzen chips are no good overclockers at all, not to mention that not all ram sticks can be overclocked past 2667 mhz.
post #68 of 102
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rolleyes.gif

thats not exactly an impressive chart
is the 6700k held at 3.4Ghz?

from the 6700k minimum frames jump up by a whopping 8 fps?
with double the cores, threads and 200Mhz more

wonder how this would look like if you take the same architecture like a 6700k and slap 1.6Ghz on top of it (hint that's what a lazy 7700k overclock is, binned is 5.2Ghz) or how it would look with a 6700k at 4.0Ghz
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...and should they kill AMD they'll be broken up for being a monopoly.

 

For one, the US govt blundered against Microsoft in monopoly litigation years ago , and I doubt they'd fare much better against Intel if it came to it especially now.

 

A Monopoly has to be proven "in court" to be an illegal monopoly. I could see Intel and a hoard of Lawyers defense start with the number of chips in different segments of "processing" and downplay the corporate pc market piece and drag mobile / tablet into the equation where the global picture is not Intel 80%+ of the entire market. 25 years ago Mobile was not a thing like it is now and Lawyers might gain ground with that argument better today than they could years ago. I'm assuming... :o

 

Additionally aren't China and Russia making their own chips or planning to to get the NSA off their chips?

 

Again I'm not trying to be an expert on exact percentages servers, OEM pc, home built pc, mobile etc, just saying the demographics could be argued as different if Intel chose to try to focus on that in any pending litigation defense. And they have the cash... When cash is involved never underestimate how nasty things can get argument wise lol.


Edited by Ghoxt - 4/30/17 at 5:43am
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Now the question is how many will stick back to intel...

Intel drop price, now they are cheaper....despite Intel is still more slightly expensive, suddenly everyone buys Intel instead & totally forgot about AMD Ryzen

AMD couldnt make enough profit, Ryzen R&D is cut. Zen 3 & 4 become a bulldozer 2.0 after Intel introduce Sandy bridge 2.0---> Everyone got stuck with the same amount of intel core for the next 6-8years.

How many of you guys wanna repeat this?

Not I, Skylake x can kick bricks, I'm going the AMD route with that delicious 16/32 chip of theirs the second it hits the market.
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