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580 4gb @ $275 free shipping (might be a fluke. $303 on newegg)
http://www.ncix.com/detail/msi-radeon-rx-580-armor-37-140548.htm?promoid=1501

570 @ $261 free shipping
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B06Y144RLK/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me=

480 4gb @ $250+5.99 shipping in canada (save $40.00, others seem to be closer to $280-300)
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137082&cm_re=rx_480-_-14-137-082-_-Product


Also have the possibility of buying an hd 7870 (they're all saying its the one that's the same as a 7970) for very cheap, as well as a r9 290 for ~ 90 or so.
These are the cards I'm looking at, as well as the 1060, 970, or r9 290 or higher -- and judging by the fact that I've beaten my 660 pretty hard over the years and never had an issue vs the first expensive card i buy (and first amd since my radeon x1600) that fails on me before i even get to use it. My budget you could say is I want to spend as little as possible, but have the card last me. Ultimately I'd like to spend ~ $200-250 canadian, but will go up to $300 if its really worth it and wont have to upgrade for a long time for example. I will not consider anything under a 1060, 970, r9 290, or rx 570 simply because I want to at least be able to play 1440 or 4k within the next few years on medium or so, and I just dont like the look or the power of things like the gtx 1050/1050ti, or any of those "mini" cards.
From my research I am seeing that the rx 480 is a good investment, and a great upgrade from a 660. Now, the 5xx line is newer, and the second gen of this archetecture, but Im trying to find out if it's worth grabbing a 580 now instead, or waiting til the next line is released to get a good deal on the 480 or 580. Also, from userbenchmark (what i use to compare along with) the difference between the rx 570, rx 580 and rx 480 seem negligable to me(looking at 4gb cards only as 8gb seems not necessary at all for my application), and it seems like I should just grab the cheapest of the 3, unless the newer architecture or perhaps bios may be a deciding factor if the prices are similar? This is where I'm getting lost.

The basic story is that I bought the gtx 660 in ~ 2013 or so, and it was an upgrade to a gt 240, so it was decent at the time for me on a 1440x900 monitor. I then bought an XFX r9 290x off ebay for ~$300 Canadian total, and it konked out on me before I even got to play a game on it or try overclocking. May have killed it with insufficient cooling (was using kraken g10 bracket and a h80 closed loop cooler with an 80 or 100 cm fan that blows on the rly hot vrm section with gellid icy v2 heatsink kit for 290x vrms/chokes, copper sinks on the vrams, and high quality thermal pads/paste for their respective section -- basically this guide is exactly what I did: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/kraken-g10-with-gelid-vrm-kit-for-290x.2384233/). I have literally spent probably close to 100 hours reading, researching, watching videos, and trying things to no avail. Fan spins but not detected in bios, hardware manager, by amd driver installer, nor in a different pc. Pics are linked in my signature, nevertheless, this is not why I am here but simply the backstory of where I am at. After spending $300, which was probably one of the larger investments I have made for my pc; I am very weary of getting screwed again, and am really taking my time and researching before I do something dumb. I later found out that I could have bought a 290 and flashed a 290x bios on it and saved a LOT as 290s were waay cheaper at the time. So I am trying to avoid things like this.
I'm still on 1920x1080 (and by the look of it, will be for at least 6-8 months to a year, after which will prob be 1440p) and I do not play any really intensive fps's like battlefield or doom. I'm only really playing Path of Exile right now, and currently have all settings turned to lowest except im on the beta x64/dx11 version (non-negotiable) and I frequently get stuttering, or frame time spikes, or just general lockups to the point where I've started to do things like disable all chrome extensions with any noticable footprint due to my ram nearly maxing out with one youtube page open and Path of Exile for example on Windows 10. I realize this might have more to do with ram than my gpu, but I have been told it might be the GPU after all. I do have fallout 4, and skyrim and i love doing heavy modding, and trying some of the awesome visual mods has been a wish of mine for many years now. I also grabbed the witcher 3 and had to run them pretty low, and I am also an assassins creed fan, however, I havent run a game on higher than 'high' since ~ fallout 3 I'd say (probably because I couldnt), and "ultra" hasnt really been a priority for me.. for many years but I am really getting sick of games dipping below 60fps, and in some cases below 50 fps on 1080, and not having this issue would be my main goal here. Somewhat heavily modded minecraft offline solo at higher textures would be nice to which is barely an option right now

I have a gigabyte ga-990fxa-ud7 r1.1 (non uefi)
Amd FX-8350 on closed loop, @ 4.5ghz at about 25-30C idle right now, and no more than 45-50C ish when running path of exile for example)
2x4gb 1600mhz 9-9-9-27-36 1t @ 1.65v (upgrading to 2x8gb 1833 minimum)
evga gtx 660 sc (2gb) (bios mod for voltage unlock with kepler bios modder) overclocked to 1254mhz (1046mhz stock sc oc) / 3205mhz mem (3005 stock)(can go higher with next to 0C gain in temp, but just testing this and will probably go back to stock afterward)
RAIDMAX RX-1200AE 1200W ATX12V EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER
2x Samsung 850 EVO SSDs (250gb x2)
1 2tb WD hdd 7200 rpm
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one widescreen 1920x1080 monitor, one wide 1440x900 monitor, and one smaller 1280x1024 monitor -- which will probably change to one 1440p monitor, the 1080p, and another 1080p or just a 1600x900 one (3 is kinda overkill)
I'm interested in the higher refresh monitors if possible but i have not looked into it at all yet.

Prices must be (good) in Canadian, and must be able to be shipped to southern Ontario. Any help or insight is greatly appreciated.
Edited by NFleck - 4/27/17 at 7:12pm
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Wait for Vega, it comes out in May and see where the chips fall on the lower tier cards and buy then. At your budget, I'd go with a RX 580 8GB card.

https://www.amazon.ca/GIGABYTE-Radeon-Gaming-8GHZ-GDDR5/dp/B06Y3ZQPY6/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8&qid=1493345564&sr=8-21&keywords=rx+580
Edited by Gunderman456 - 4/27/17 at 7:14pm
 
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Was kinda set on upgrading like.. this week. What kind of savings do you think I can expect by waiting until summer?
Also, I have been looking at a 980 SC for ~ $225 with hybrid cooling.
Edited by NFleck - 4/27/17 at 7:16pm
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Always a gamble, but maybe $20-30, however the link I sent you above has the RX 580 8GB for $313, a good catch!
 
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Always a gamble, but maybe $20-30, however the link I sent you above has the RX 580 8GB for $313, a good catch!

From what I've read, the difference between the 4gb and 8gb is very negligible unless running multiple very expensive monitors. Is it really worth the extra money? That's quite a large % higher for not that much more "benchmark" difference from what I see. This is probably the core of my hesitation at this point. Please set me straight. Is this incorrect?

Edit: Just got an offer to buy a Sapphire Nitro RX480 4gb for $240 on kijiji -- it's got better cooling and higher oc than the reference according to the seller (I think it's similar to craigslist in the us if you don't know)
Edited by NFleck - 4/27/17 at 7:24pm
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It's $13 bucks difference and you spoke about upgrading your monitor so yes it's worth it. Some games are using more then 4GB. Up to you.
 
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It's $13 bucks difference and you spoke about upgrading your monitor so yes it's worth it. Some games are using more then 4GB. Up to you.

Is it rly only $13 difference? I think I'm sold. You wouldn't onsider something on the nvidia side for the ~$300 range? The 1060 6gb is around there I believe.
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No not as fast as the 580 and you also get 2 more GB on the 580 for cheaper.
 
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There's a GTX 1060 6gb by evga on ebay for ~ $250 shipped i believe, and can possibly get one off Kijiji (local classifieds) for $250 but I'd have to drive 30 mins or so to get it. If it comes down to a rx 580 for $300+tax new that may or may not have a decent warranty, or an evga gtx 660 6gb sc for $250 with an awesome warranty, is it still wise to go with the rx 580?


EVGA is very attractive to me because small to medium overclocks, and possibly a waterblock are things I would really like to be able to do without voiding the warranty. The only other decent warranties I see are MSI, and XFX on the other side, Should this be a limiting factor, and would you pay more for the same card to be able to put a wb on, or replace thermal paste without voiding warranty? Or is it typically the case that if you are professional/careful and do it right, if you DO have to RMA, usually putting the stock cooler back on before shipping it to them is enough? What should I be doing regarding warranties and aftermarket cooling?
Edited by NFleck - 4/28/17 at 9:28am
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So you want to put a waterblock on a midrange card? In my book a low tear mid range card since I'm no subscriber to the shenanigans from AMD and NVIDIA selling the full chip for extortionist prices while moving up what use to be the low tear cards up to midrange cards.

Why not just go for a 1070 at that point? Would cost the same as a 580 and a waterblock and you'd definitely get more performance and still OC for even more performance.
 
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