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Hey guys!

So I finally persuaded the wife that my PC is due for an upgrade and I'm going to go back to AMD on the R7 platform smile.gif I figured I'll go with the 1700 and the Crosshair VI mobo. The only thing missing now is suitable 16gb RAM.

What kit would u suggest purchasing for RAM? I am eyeing some G.Skills or Corsair Vengeance.

Aslo regarding mobo would "downgrading" to a cheaper mobo like the Asus X370 pro be a huge downgrade for overclocking the R7 to 3.9 - 4.0.

My primary purchasing sources would be either Scan.co.uk, ebuyer.co.uk or overclockers.co.uk. (any other UK retailrs welcome smile.gif)
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Corsair Vengeance or G.Skill Flare X. As for mobo, compare the phases.
 
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The X370 Prime Pro would be fine. You lose BCLK (external base clock generator), extra audio shielding (the SupremeFX cover), power/reset/clear CMOS buttons, voltage check points, LN2 mode, water pump monitoring, and other such niceties.

The X370 Prime Pro should be able to hit 4.0GHz but the VRM is 3/4 as capable as that of the Crosshair VI Hero, which is relevant if you want to push your CPU past the 1.4V and 110A range.
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The X370 Prime Pro would be fine. You lose BCLK (external base clock generator), extra audio shielding (the SupremeFX cover), power/reset/clear CMOS buttons, voltage check points, LN2 mode, water pump monitoring, and other such niceties.

The X370 Prime Pro should be able to hit 4.0GHz but the VRM is 3/4 as capable as that of the Crosshair VI Hero, which is relevant if you want to push your CPU past the 1.4V and 110A range.

So I might as well stick wi the CVI. What about other brands? I've only used Asus motherboards but i'm hearing Asrock mobos are really nice on Intel side but wondering how the AMD ones fair smile.gif

Thanks for your input guys!
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I'm on a C6H and a 1700. Initially I got the G.Skill RGB memory, I would avoid that due to SPD corruption issues with the AURA and/or G.Skill software. I replaced that with G.SKILL TridentZ F4-3600C16D-16GTZSW.

I am currently running my GPU at 3.95 GHz or 4 GHz, using Zenstates P-state overclocking. My memory is running at 3200 MHz at 14-14-14-14-36 timings. I could run the memory faster if I wanted to use a BCLK overclock.

I'm happy with the performance.
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I'm on a C6H and a 1700. Initially I got the G.Skill RGB memory, I would avoid that due to SPD corruption issues with the AURA and/or G.Skill software. I replaced that with G.SKILL TridentZ F4-3600C16D-16GTZSW.

I am currently running my GPU at 3.95 GHz or 4 GHz, using Zenstates P-state overclocking. My memory is running at 3200 MHz at 14-14-14-14-36 timings. I could run the memory faster if I wanted to use a BCLK overclock.

I'm happy with the performance.

Really appreciate the feedback smile.gif
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Corsair Vengeance or G.Skill Flare X. As for mobo, compare the phases.

These are not the best options for the R7/C6H if you wanted faster memory speeds. There is only one version in the Vengeance lineup that uses Samsung B-die ICs IIRC (think it was v4.31 but dont quote me on that). Flare X seems to be a little hit and miss which seems odd.

G.skill Trident using Samsung B-die seems to be the most forgiving right now.
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So I might as well stick wi the CVI. What about other brands? I've only used Asus motherboards but i'm hearing Asrock mobos are really nice on Intel side but wondering how the AMD ones fair smile.gif

Thanks for your input guys!

If you're looking at the other brands the only worthwhile choices compared to X370 ASUS boards are:
the perpetually out of stock ~$200 Asrock X370 Taichi (and slightly more expensive Asrock X370 Fatal1ty Pro ; both are roughly on par with CH VI Hero),
~ $210 Gigabyte X370 Gaming K7 (VRM on par with X370 Prime Pro but with Power/reset/OC buttons +BCLK + added audio shielding + Dual BIOS and external temp sensors),
~ $170-190 Gigabyte X370 gaming 5 (K7 without BCLK),
and ~$180-200 Biostar X370 GT7 (no BCLK and not a big 4 motherboard manufacturer so BIOs updates might be slower ; about on par with CH VI Hero but without BCLK and not Intel LAN).
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@Firann

Just to add to AlphaC great info on C6H vs Prime X370 Pro. Currently from all members shares PState OC does not exist on Prime X370 Pro, it is either CPU multiplier or custom CPU multiplier which does not work like PState OC on C6H. PState OC on C6H is not allowing increased VID within that section currently. So offset mode on another section gain you VCORE as you need. You get full down clocking/volting.

Also the Prime X370 Pro does not have the AMD CBS options which C6H has, besides other setting which may or may not help it contains ProcODT. Processor On Die Termination, this value can aid some aiming for improved RAM compatibility/clocks. Then I believe the Prime X370 Pro does not have Asus T-Topology setup, that is an old article on it, now IIRC they into 2nd gen of tech.

Then Elmor has posted an app which allows OS based PState tweaking. Asus ZenStates. This makes OC as if a PState OC was set via UEFI.

I agree with madweazel that Trident Z Samsung B die seem more forgiving than Flare X from what member shares have highlighted. And as stated by CeltPC I'd go for non RGB G.Skill.
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I appreciate everyones feedback! Ill browse around for the parts. I believe that eboyer is the only one with the g..skills so ill shop around smile.gif Did Nvidia sort out theor driver issues for Ryzen? I seem to remeber that some tests showed minor issues with performance.
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