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Range and cost is a really big deal to a trucking company. Right now we are suffering loss of profit on regulated electronic emission control systems.

Here's the upside!

If you don't have emissions, you don't need to control them.
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what about city busses?

they make a ton of noise too (on top of the polution), and drive around from early morning to late night (sometimes in the middle of the night as well)

trucks - at least in my city - arent allowed to drive in town during some parts of the day
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A very interesting concept, which could lead to lower emissions and lower costs.

I can see companies like Amazon loving this for things like warehouse - warehouse shipping, especially when coupled with autonomous driving.

Another great thing is that electric motors take pretty much zero maintenance, especially compared to IC engines. I have seen motors in acid plants that have been running almost continuously for over a decade in some very harsh conditions, and still work just fine. Industrial motors are typically rated at 25 years of continuous service, and it is rare that an equipment failure is caused by them. Even if they do break, swapping them out is a very quick and simple job that can be done in less than an hour by a competent crew - one cable, 4 anchor bolts, 1 coupling.

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what about city busses?
they make a ton of noise too (on top of the polution), and drive around from early morning to late night (sometimes in the middle of the night as well)
trucks - at least in my city - arent allowed to drive in town during some parts of the day

Trolley busses are a viable alternative there - no need for the huge battery packs as they take their power from overhead wires (still need a smaller battery for those times when they become disconnected from the wires). The obvious drawback to this is the need to install and maintain the cables along the routes.

A lot of busses in Vancouver are electric, although diesel busses still exist for some routes where cables aren't installed. There is currently a push to replace these with battery powered busses.
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what about city busses?

they make a ton of noise too (on top of the polution), and drive around from early morning to late night (sometimes in the middle of the night as well)

trucks - at least in my city - arent allowed to drive in town during some parts of the day

The near complete removal of noise pollution is just one of the extra perks to an EV society. It also just means those of us with old Detroit muscle sound better when we take it out on a nice day!

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Here's the upside!

If you don't have emissions, you don't need to control them.

Who would have thought rolleyes.gif
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The Tesla X can't even drive around like a sports car. The body roll on it is absolutely nuts compared to modern SUVs, sure it's fast in a straight line, but it's not driving "around".
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The Tesla X can't even drive around like a sports car. The body roll on it is absolutely nuts compared to modern SUVs, sure it's fast in a straight line, but it's not driving "around".

Does thou know what thou speaketh?

The nature of how they are made makes them natural have little body roll.
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On the plus side, the stiff suspension and low centre of gravity, thanks to all those batteries mounted under the floor, the Model X handles like no other SUV. It corners brilliantly, even when you’re sitting high, with very little body roll and plenty of grip.
Read more at https://www.stuff.tv/tesla/model-x/review#WDee3QXSXrLXJBS3.99


Make something else up and try again. lachen.gif

Actually the worst one I have heard so far.
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Does thou know what thou speaketh?

The nature of how they are made makes them natural have little body roll.
Read more at https://www.stuff.tv/tesla/model-x/review#WDee3QXSXrLXJBS3.99


Make something else up and try again. lachen.gif

Actually the worst one I have heard so far.

I know what the reviews say, I've driven one and it didn't feel safe in tight corners at speed. Especially when compared to other SUVs.
I'm not saying the design isn't innovative and the Teslas aren't amazing. I'm saying, unless you've actually been in both and compared how they feel, the Tesla X doesn't corner as neatly as alternative SUVS. That being said, the seats offer next to no sideways support and there are no "Oh ****" handles or anything to hold on to. So when you're cornering, everyone in the Tesla X just gets swayed around really aggressively.
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I know what the reviews say, I've driven one and it didn't feel safe in tight corners at speed. Especially when compared to other SUVs.
I'm not saying the design isn't innovative and the Teslas aren't amazing. I'm saying, unless you've actually been in both and compared how they feel, the Tesla X doesn't corner as neatly as alternative SUVS. That being said, the seats offer next to no sideways support and there are no "Oh ****" handles or anything to hold on to. So when you're cornering, everyone in the Tesla X just gets swayed around really aggressively.

People who have driven the Bentley SUV and The Model X say otherwise.

It is impossible for a vehicle with such low center of gravity to have much roll. So i am not sure what you drove.

Seats I cant argue about. You don't like them you don't like them.
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People who have driven the Bentley SUV and The Model X say otherwise.

It is impossible for a vehicle with such low center of gravity to have much roll. So i am not sure what you drove.

Seats I cant argue about. You don't like them you don't like them.

I don't know what to tell you. It's not impossible if the suspension is stiff to achieve lift on the inside. I got bounce on the inside tires on a highway off-ramp that goes 270 degrees (to an overpass). Recommended speed is 50 km/h, The tesla wasn't happy at around 70, the Q7 followed no problem and my MX5 can take that corner at 90+.

I was driving a Model X P100D. The Model x is definitely nimble for its size but it's nothing like a sports car at speed.


I am excited for Teslas Semi-truck. I just don't like that it says "like a sports car", I'm sure at speed, it's not "Like a sports car".
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