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I would love to see how much they pack in batteries. If they REALLY wanted to, they could line the floor of the trailer with a smaller set of batteries to increase range. Add Solar panels on top where space is not being used and you can have a totally different set of batteries for when the driver is resting.
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I would love to see how much they pack in batteries. If they REALLY wanted to, they could line the floor of the trailer with a smaller set of batteries to increase range. Add Solar panels on top where space is not being used and you can have a totally different set of batteries for when the driver is resting.

thats what they're trying to do, stuff the chassis with 2tonnes of lithium batteries.
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I would love to see how much they pack in batteries. If they REALLY wanted to, they could line the floor of the trailer with a smaller set of batteries to increase range. Add Solar panels on top where space is not being used and you can have a totally different set of batteries for when the driver is resting.

One problem with that idea is the batteries would become dead weight when the trailer was being towed by a non-EV tractor.
     
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One problem with that idea is the batteries would become dead weight when the trailer was being towed by a non-EV tractor.

That's just an issue of transition logistics, right?
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One problem with that idea is the batteries would become dead weight when the trailer was being towed by a non-EV tractor.

Remove them then. It's not like that space is being used right now.
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Remove them then. It's not like that space is being used right now.

wait wut, then who'd haul the removed batteries?
the batteries are simply road scrap without the truck.
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One problem with that idea is the batteries would become dead weight when the trailer was being towed by a non-EV tractor.

That's just an issue of transition logistics, right?

Not really. Adoption will never be total due to range and other issues. Keep in mind that trailers aren't permanently attached to tractors. They get frequently switched around. They often get dropped for loading by one tractor and picked up later by another tractor. Although the practice is dying out, trailers can get shipped by railway cars, during which the batteries would be dead weight. The huge cables needed to carry power from the trailer batteries to the tractor would add too much weight and expense. The trailer itself would need to be heavier to support the batteries. Keeping the batteries in one place—on the tractor—would be much simpler and more cost effective.
     
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Not really. Adoption will never be total due to range and other issues. Keep in mind that trailers aren't permanently attached to tractors. They get frequently switched around. They often get dropped for loading by one tractor and picked up later by another tractor. Although the practice is dying out, trailers can get shipped by railway cars, during which the batteries would be dead weight. The huge cables needed to carry power from the trailer batteries to the tractor would add too much weight and expense. The trailer itself would need to be heavier to support the batteries. Keeping the batteries in one place—on the tractor—would be much simpler and more cost effective.

For the purpose these will be used for (delivering battery packs up and down hill to start), I do not see a range issue.

Tesla will be using these trucks themselves first to deliver battery packs instead of renting trucks etc...

As these trucks roll out to others infrastructure will be greatly improved. truck stops will most likely have chargers.
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Can the battery be charged to full in the time it takes me to fill up?
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Supposedly through battery swapping.
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