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Anyone Just see AMD reported a $73mil loss for Q1 this year =/.

It is alright for AMD.

For a normal company yeah this is not good.
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If you actually believe a performance regression from a 1200 MHz 4096 SP card versus Fury X I don't really know what to tell you.
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Anyone Just see AMD reported a $73mil loss for Q1 this year =/.
You have to remember that it's only with 28 days of Ryzen 7 sales. +150 mil revenue up from last year is encouraging if anything. That's with no major OEM included, as well.
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It is alright for AMD.

For a normal company yeah this is not good.
Pretty much. Not seeing a very large difference is unsurprising, given high end desktop sales make up a small portion of the market, even with a new release.
Edited by Tojara - 5/1/17 at 6:40pm
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Am I the only one that initially saw "Poor Voltage", rather than "Poor Volta"? tongue.gif

Either way, campy marketing has been an AMD "thing" for awhile now.....
All cores are not created equal.


Poor Voltage doesnt make any sense. Furthermore the ge is hidden, leaving Volta left. It's a direct challange to Volta hence if it doesnt beat Volta, its a failure. Anything less than 1080Ti will be

You do have a point. Not only is the "ge" part of Voltage covered (and that part of the sign has a green background, so it can't get any clearer), it's with a mostly red sticker saying "#BETTERRED" and "RADEON" on the bottom.



And "Somnum Industries" at the bottom of the sign can be interpreted as Nvidia being asleep on the job. Either one looks like a bold statement from a company that for now is only competing with the GTX 1060.

But that also brings me to the rumours saying that there are two Vega chips, which does make sense, there is a lot of price range to cover from the GTX 1070 onwards. Could we have a small Vega for $350?

If it's only one chip, how can it possibly be better than Pascal cards and at the same time cover all the segments without leaving glaring holes?


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Anyone Just see AMD reported a $73mil loss for Q1 this year =/.

It is alright for AMD.

For a normal company yeah this is not good.

Yes. Give them time. Ryzen is just getting started. Not to mention that the big sellers Ryzen 5 chips were released later.
 
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It is alright for AMD.

For a normal company yeah this is not good.
They beat their loss expectations by 1cent per share with Ryzen boosting the market hold. Silver linings I guess?
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They beat their loss expectations by 1cent per share with Ryzen boosting the market hold. Silver linings I guess?

more like gold within a pile of sand.
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On today's earning call lisa su said that they will release a stack of vega products above Polaris price. Probably that means two chips based on Vega. Vega 11 and Vega 10?


Vega 11 : 384bit bus or 4gb HBM
Vega 10 : Only 8gb HBM
MI25 : 16gb HBM

Just a speculation
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above polaris price is reasonable, since they're a higher-end chip and all.
depends on whether both 11 and 10 are faster than polaris.
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more like gold within a pile of sand.
Again, that's a months worth of Ryzen 7. Even 100 000 sales of top end desktop would be very high for a new launch, and that's $50 million in revenue. Ryzen 5 and OEMs will make a far larger difference, but Raven Ridge and Ryzen 3 will be the cash cows.
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above polaris price is reasonable, since they're a higher-end chip and all.
depends on whether both 11 and 10 are faster than polaris.
Both should be. Nothing between 232 and 470 mm^2 leaves a very large gap, as full big Vega should be $500+.
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Well just to wade in here. AMD stated it would try to make back some of its investment in HBM 1. Would it be too much to guess that maybe the Fury line was planed for getting a refresh with new higher clocked cards in order to recoup costs. Maybe these strange benchmarks at higher clocks are for a potential Fiji refresh that may or may not see the light of day. Remember the speculation over RX 390. It now looks an awful lot like the announced Xbox Scorpio GPU.

On another note. I got bored and tried a little experimenting today. I was wonder what a Duel-X Nano would look and work like. I'll let the pictures speak for themselves.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Much quieter, but 9C hotter running due to heat sink optimization for single fan. Too bad.

This post from Fiji owners thread could be on target. Think of how AMD keeps refreshing things, perhaps a refreshed fiji is in order with vega, to fill in that middle gap?
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Again, that's a months worth of Ryzen 7. Even 100 000 sales of top end desktop would be very high for a new launch, and that's $50 million in revenue. Ryzen 5 and OEMs will make a far larger difference, but Raven Ridge and Ryzen 3 will be the cash cows.

thats what i'm saying, Ryzen was the most anticipated release in the 10 plus years of waiting, the gold within AMD's pile of sand.
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