Originally Posted by HanSomPa
This is 100% speculation. A change in management can have a significant impact on products released, or whether they are released at all.
You're strawmanning my argument. I never said they wouldn't be influenced. I said products being released in 2017 will be the first products that could possibly be released totally under the current management - from conception to being on the store shelves. Any products AMD released prior to 2017 (Zen, Fiji, Polaris, APUs) would have been conceived under previous management.
Originally Posted by Hardware Hoshi
If you haven't noticed, AMD is in constant rebuild process since over 10 years. The management is as bad as always. Three to four years are alot of time to change things around. I haven't seen that light you speak of at all. AMD is not over the hill yet. They still have lots of work to do.
I have not spoken of any "light". 3-4 years is NOT a lot of time to turn things around in the semiconductor industry, especially when your entire product portfolio is bad. Like I said, it takes 3-5 years for a brand new processor design to see the light of day. The reason why companies like Intel, Apple, Samsung, etc... can release new chips every 8-12 months is because they have multiple teams working on multiple products concurrently.
Lisa Su was always thought as 2nd in command, appointed by former AMD CEO Rory Read himself. She was in the upper management since end of 2011. The only thing happening since then is the former weak CPU divison wanted to take control again from the GPU division. They took the majority of the funds for Ryzen and let the new RTG division starve with the minimium. You see the results in the GPU-products. They are often missing long time or just rehashes.
That's a nice theory, but the reality is the whole company was suffering long before that. Fiji and Hawaii both took ~2 years to come to market, and they were both released before the formation of RTG.