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Fury was a joke, not Titan levels but not that far

not as much as a joke as Polaris right? not even half a Titan.
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You're expecting near GTX 1080Ti performance for under 300?  I want what you're having.
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$650 is completely reasonable for a top-end card, Fury X is priced $649.

New yes.
today a 1080 cost 50 euro less here than a furyx.
Vega is needed
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New yes.
today a 1080 cost 50 euro less here than a furyx.
Vega is needed

if Vega's rumor is even remotely true, then it'll be at the very least faster than 1080, even if its not faster than 1080Ti.
it would then be worth the $650 price tag and would even have a slightly higher perf/$ value.
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if Vega's rumor is even remotely true, then it'll be at the very least faster than 1080, even if its not faster than 1080Ti.
it would then be worth the $650 price tag and would even have a slightly higher perf/$ value.

If performance is between 1080 and 1080TI for $650, that will be a total failure.

1080 can currently be had for $470 and TI for $690.

At $650 it has to at the very least match the 1080TI for anyone to buy it, and realistically it would need to be at least 10% faster to really be any sort of success given the fact that the 1080 and 1080TI already exist, and are from the "brand name" Nvidia rather than "off-brand" AMD.

On the other hand, if it does sit between 1080 and 1080TI performance, it could still be successful, so long as it doesn't cost any more than $500-600, depending on where exactly it lies on the spectrum of performance between those two cards.
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If performance is between 1080 and 1080TI for $650, that will be a total failure.

1080 can currently be had for $470 and TI for $690.

At $650 it has to at the very least match the 1080TI for anyone to buy it, and realistically it would need to be at least 10% faster to really be any sort of success given the fact that the 1080 and 1080TI already exist, and are from the "brand name" Nvidia rather than "off-brand" AMD.

On the other hand, if it does sit between 1080 and 1080TI performance, it could still be successful, so long as it doesn't cost any more than $500-600, depending on where exactly it lies on the spectrum of performance between those two cards.

Haven't seen a brand new 1080 for anything below 500$ to be honest with you. I'm pretty sure Vega is targeting the 500$ market, which Nvidia will probably win, as usual, but the good news is that competition between 200$-500$ will be exciting and great for consumers once again.
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In europe you can get several different custom 1080 s new for below 500€, the cheapest currently costs 460€ (the KFA model) ! There is also a MSI cashback running for european buyers, if you buy a MSI product, (like a 1080) , for example if you buy the 1080 armor for 516€ you get 50€ cashback, so the card totals to 466€.
There are also many other custom new 1080s available for below 500€.

What bugs me, there is still barely any information regarding the real performance, launch/availability and price of vega. I really start to lose interest, and i seriously doubt that vega will be able to compete with 1080 performance for 460€...

The fact that we barely get any credible news from amd lets me guess that vega launch may still be some time in the future, maybe it will really be launched only at the end of june frown.gif
Edited by aliquis - 5/6/17 at 11:23am
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Haven't seen a brand new 1080 for anything below 500$ to be honest with you. I'm pretty sure Vega is targeting the 500$ market, which Nvidia will probably win, as usual, but the good news is that competition between 200$-500$ will be exciting and great for consumers once again.

Newegg has open box and refurbished 1080s for $460 and proper brand new for $480 right now.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601194948%20601203901

I really want Vega to be a win. Nvidia has been all too scummy lately, and of course competition in general is always good, but I'm not going to lie about prices just to make a $650 1080 competitor seem more appealing.

Hopefully you are correct and they do indeed target the $500 range, and hopefully with something at least half way between the 1080 and 1080ti in perfomance. I suppose I'd also be ok with TitanXP perf for the previously cited $650 mark, but that seems a lot less likely.
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Newegg has open box and refurbished 1080s for $460 and proper brand new for $480 right now.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601194948%20601203901

I really want Vega to be a win. Nvidia has been all too scummy lately, and of course competition in general is always good, but I'm not going to lie about prices just to make a $650 1080 competitor seem more appealing.

Hopefully you are correct and they do indeed target the $500 range, and hopefully with something at least half way between the 1080 and 1080ti in perfomance. I suppose I'd also be ok with TitanXP perf for the previously cited $650 mark, but that seems a lot less likely.

 

 

There was also a EVGA GTX 1080 FTW DT a few hours ago though sold out by the looks of it now on Amazon for $450.  Been seeing GTX 1080's down to $450 on sale pretty often in the last week.

 

 

Even a 1080Ti founders Edition for $670 at MicroCenter right now.


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"Before we close here it’s very important to understand that what AMD is attempting with the Vega architecture as a whole does not begin with nor does it end with enthusiast gaming Radeon RX Vega graphics cards.

The new architecture means a lot more than that to the company. Vega’s high bandwidth cache technology is a truly unique memory subsystem. A technology that is poised to shine brightest in professional compute arena, especially in applications that demand massive sets of data. Think AI, machine learning and many forms of data analysis. While the implications of this forward-looking architecture in gaming may be far into the future its potential can be immediately realized in the GPGPU compute space.

With the Vega launch approaching, it’s critical that enthusiasts looking forward to the new GPU hit the pause button for a moment and manage their expectations. If you were expecting a monster that’s going to dethrone NVIDIA’s GTX Titan Xp think again. If you were looking for GTX 1070 and GTX 1080 competition from the Red team to shake things up, later this quarter you’re going to get it.
Vega’s is officially slated for release some time between now and before the end of June according to AMD’s CEO."
http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-10-3dmark-firestrike-benchmark-entry-spotted-687fc1-device-8gb-700mhz-vram-1200mhz-core-clock/

The good is AMD might pick up market share in the compute arena where it truly might be geared toward contending with the Volta architecture. The bad is gamers might need to manage expectations.
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