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I haven't built a PC in about 10 years, so I'm looking for a little help. Based on Tomshardware reviews I originally thought I wanted an Intel build. Going Ryzen was actually recommended to me on the OCN Intel forum.

EDIT: After much help through this thread, I think I have settled on the below build. I ended up reducing the size of my boot drive to increase motherboard budget. With my extra HDDs, I should have enough storage.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 $219.99
GPU: Gigabyte Windforce OC GTX 1070 $349.06
Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VI Hero $254.99
RAM: G. Skill TridentZ Series DDR4 3200 (8GB x 2) $179.99
SSD: MDNVME80-BPX-0256 $114.99
PSU: EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 $99.99

Total (exluding shipping/taxes): $1219.01

I am reusing keyboard, mouse, monitor, case (1st gen CM-690) and some HDDs (about 1.5TB total, which is plenty for my needs).

Thanks for all your help!
Edited by WBaS - 5/4/17 at 11:27am
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Hi there not a bad build I would use 3200Mhz memory instead of the 3400Mhz unless you already have it. The power supply is fine. The CPU is one that looks very promising and if you plan not to over clock heavy I would use the stock cooler. Are you planning to get everything from Amazon or Newegg or both?

Also the 1070 is a good card to run with the Ryzen. I run one and the setup runs amazing even though I don't have a M.2 SSD it still run fast. thumb.gif

Also your GPU link shows the PSU that you have already listed.
Edited by ITAngel - 4/30/17 at 6:18pm
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Hi there not a bad build I would use 3200Mhz memory instead of the 3400Mhz unless you already have it. The power supply is fine. The CPU is one that looks very promising and if you plan not to over clock heavy I would use the stock cooler. Are you planning to get everything from Amazon or Newegg or both?

Also the 1070 is a good card to run with the Ryzen. I run one and the setup runs amazing even though I don't have a M.2 SSD it still run fast. thumb.gif

Also your GPU link shows the PSU that you have already listed.

Thanks for catching the bad link, it's fixed now.

I haven't checked prices from vendors yet, but I will probably be ordering from either newegg or amazon.

Why do you recommend 3200Mhz instead of 3400Mhz?
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post #4 of 41
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Thanks for catching the bad link, it's fixed now.

I haven't checked prices from vendors yet, but I will probably be ordering from either newegg or amazon.

Why do you recommend 3200Mhz instead of 3400Mhz?

A lot of the test and review showing that 3200Mhz seems to be the sweet spot for Ryzen. Anything over the amount of benefit compare to cost is not all that high and is best to use that money somewhere else. Also not many ram do 3200Mhz on Ryzen unless you get the correct ram for example. Mine can only hit up to 2667Mhz so unless I want 3200Mhz I would have to sell them and buy the correct ram that will hit that like the Flare X ram. I think you will have a sweet system with fast ram, m.2, plus a gtx 1070. thumb.gif
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A lot of the test and review showing that 3200Mhz seems to be the sweet spot for Ryzen. Anything over the amount of benefit compare to cost is not all that high and is best to use that money somewhere else. Also not many ram do 3200Mhz on Ryzen unless you get the correct ram for example. Mine can only hit up to 2667Mhz so unless I want 3200Mhz I would have to sell them and buy the correct ram that will hit that like the Flare X ram. I think you will have a sweet system with fast ram, m.2, plus a gtx 1070. thumb.gif

Based on my preliminary research, it seems as though there is an expected AMD patch coming out this month to address the issues with RAM not running at 3200Mhz. Where can I find the "correct" RAM? Do you mean RAM that the manufacturer of the MB has used for testing?
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Yes the ram that MB manufacturers has used and tested verified to run at the speeds the ram are designed to run. We can see on this new patch how it will help because I don't want to see my ram to get a different kind of ram. Beside if I run 4 sticks I will be force to run at 2400Mhz anyway. XD if you currently have ram to hold you over you should use that instead for now. I run fairly fast with 2133MHz on my current setup.
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post #7 of 41
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Originally Posted by WBaS View Post

I haven't built a PC in about 10 years, so I'm looking for a little help. Based on Tomshardware reviews I originally thought I wanted an Intel build. Going Ryzen was actually recommended to me on the OCN Intel forum. I want to keep the budget near $1,200 or below. After doing some quick research, I think what I want is a 1600 and a B350 mobo.

AMD
CPU: 1600?
CPU Cooler: Stock?
MOBO: B350?

GPU: MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X 8G
RAM: Patriot 2x8GB Viper 4 3400 MHz (PC4-27200)
SSD: MyDigital 480GB PCIe 3.0 x4 M.2
PSU: EVGA SuperNova 650 P2

Intel Option
CPU: i5-7600k
CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer i32
MOBO: MSI Z270 SLI Plus

I will be reusing keyboard, mouse, monitor, case (1st gen CM-690) and some HDDs.

If I plan to manually overclock, is there any reason to go for the 1600X vs the 1600 since they are both unlocked? Is the stock cooler really good enough to OC and is it loud? Are there any specific RAM concerns if using Ryzen (it looks like X370 mobos are having issues)?

EDIT: As a side note, I current have an R9 270 (was a freebie from my younger brother smile.gif ). Is it a good idea to incorporate this into the build (crossfire)?

Thanks in advance!

What are you using it for?
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Yes the ram that MB manufacturers has used and tested verified to run at the speeds the ram are designed to run. We can see on this new patch how it will help because I don't want to see my ram to get a different kind of ram. Beside if I run 4 sticks I will be force to run at 2400Mhz anyway. XD if you currently have ram to hold you over you should use that instead for now. I run fairly fast with 2133MHz on my current setup.

Once I narrow my board choices down, I may look into this more. My current RAM is DDR2-800, so I don't think that will be much help tongue.gif

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What are you using it for?

I will be using it for gaming (FPS and MMORPG mostly), internet browsing, playing music, and MS Office.
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Once I narrow my board choices down, I may look into this more. My current RAM is DDR2-800, so I don't think that will be much help tongue.gif
I will be using it for gaming (FPS and MMORPG mostly), internet browsing, playing music, and MS Office.


While there is a patch coming to help RAM later this month it is stated that it it is expected to help mainly Hyinx. We also don't know by how much, and that later this month is only the microcode update. We don't know when it'll hit Bios', but i would suspect soon. That being said Flare X is ready to hit 3200Mhz guaranteed now:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232530&cm_re=flare_x-_-20-232-530-_-Product

There is no guarantee that other memory will hit speeds of 3200mhz, or higher. AMD has been tight lipped about it. I'm on the short end running my 32GB at a respectible 2666 Mhz even though it has XMP rated for 3200 Mhz, and i have run it at that on a 6700k.

As for motherboards i'd go for what suits your taste colors aside form ASUS. They have had the most buggy boards to date with AM4. I got a X370GT7 from Biostar, and it has worked perfectly. Not to say you want to spend 179.99 on a motherboard, but i'm just saying my experience with Biostar has been good.
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Once I narrow my board choices down, I may look into this more. My current RAM is DDR2-800, so I don't think that will be much help tongue.gif
I will be using it for gaming (FPS and MMORPG mostly), internet browsing, playing music, and MS Office.

IMO a research of benchmarks of the specific games you mainly play, might help better your decision
That is, if you haven't done that already, you might find a 1600x may be a better fit or even the intel you listed
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