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post #11 of 41
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I like the idea of having more cores, for when more applications start to utilize them in the future. However, the buggy Ryzen platforms are making me want to go Intel just for the stability.

Finding benchmarks for specific games can be tough, and the fact that games change more often than my hardware will, makes it even more difficult. I do understand what you're saying though.

I guess I still have more research to do... frown.gif
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post #12 of 41
Just choose your main games and apps you'll deffo find a few benchmarks
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post #13 of 41
1600 is a great cpu. Not sure where your picking up all the buggyness from? As of now ryzen runs really good and alot of the issues are ironed out.


Yes there is still some fussy issues with memory but its gotten much better. Running at 2993mhz over 3200mhz is not the end of the world. Pick from your motherboarda QVL list and you will be ok.
post #14 of 41
Intel does not have an answer for mainstream Ryzen atm. There are games that are already bottlenecked hard by 4 thread cpus (battlefield 1 mp ) and it can't possibly get better in the future. 4 thread max cpus are dead in my opinion, regardless of how great they are otherwise. Personally i would go for a x370 mainboard, because b350 are worse for overclocking atm, so not much cheaper in price/performance, r5-1600 and nvidia 1060 and see how much budget you have left for upgrading either of them.
Edited by sefwe - 5/3/17 at 1:48am
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Is there any reason to get the 1600x over the 1600 if I'm already planning on overclocking? Isn't the only difference the maximum boost in frequency, which will be over-ridden by the overclock?
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post #16 of 41
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Is there any reason to get the 1600x over the 1600 if I'm already planning on overclocking? Isn't the only difference the maximum boost in frequency, which will be over-ridden by the overclock?
getting a r5-1600x very slightly decreases the change of getting a chip that just won't overclock well. Is it worth it? i don't think so.
post #17 of 41
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Is there any reason to get the 1600x over the 1600 if I'm already planning on overclocking? Isn't the only difference the maximum boost in frequency, which will be over-ridden by the overclock?

No, there's no good reason to get the 1600x if you will overclock. Also with the 1600x you'll need to purchase a third party cooler right away.
With the 1600 and stock cooler you'll be able to overclock it way past the stock 1600X.

IMO you should forget about the 7600K, if you didn't already. It's completely pointless.

The GTX1070 is a great gpu, and if you pick one such as the EVGA SC for $340, you're good to go.
I wouldn't pay 400+ for a 1070 at this point.
And if you're not building in the next couple of weeks, I'd rather wait a few weeks to see Vega.
Edited by renx - 5/3/17 at 3:30am
post #18 of 41
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I like the idea of having more cores, for when more applications start to utilize them in the future. However, the buggy Ryzen platforms are making me want to go Intel just for the stability.

Finding benchmarks for specific games can be tough, and the fact that games change more often than my hardware will, makes it even more difficult. I do understand what you're saying though.

I guess I still have more research to do... frown.gif

Going to Intel because RAM runs faster is like buying an Xbox one because the fans spin slower. That choice just does not compute to me.


Go 1600.
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post #19 of 41
Stock cooler+1600 if you plan to overclock is the way to go. Stock cooler with good case flow is good for whatever overclock you can squeeze out of the 1600. Thermals are not an issue with these cpus it seems more just a frequency/voltage wall.

If you have no desire to overclock then grab a 1600x.


I just did a 1600 build and was orginally looking at the i5-7600k. Built my system a hair under the 7600k and I have way more cores and threads at my finger tips.


7600k is dead sadly.
post #20 of 41
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Originally Posted by sefwe View Post

Intel does not have an answer for mainstream Ryzen atm. There are games that are already bottlenecked hard by 4 thread cpus (battlefield 1 mp ) and it can't possibly get better in the future. 4 thread max cpus are dead in my opinion, regardless of how great they are otherwise. Personally i would go for a x370 mainboard, because b350 are worse for overclocking atm, so not much cheaper in price/performance, r5-1600 and nvidia 1060 and see how much budget you have left for upgrading either of them.

B350 overclocks the same as X370 in every test and review I have seen so far. How you got the idea that X370 overclocks better?
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