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B350 overclocks the same as X370 in every test and review I have seen so far. How you got the idea that X370 overclocks better?
Worse components on cheaper mainboards(more specifically VRM) making OC more difficult. There does not have to be this correlation, so you are technically correct, but at the moment - there is.
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Thanks for all the replies!
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Going to Intel because RAM runs faster is like buying an Xbox one because the fans spin slower. That choice just does not compute to me.


Go 1600.

My concern wasn't just the speed of the RAM, but the reliability of it. I know there have been multiple reports of RAM having issues when operating at their rated speeds. I know the platform is new and I don't want to be fighting through all the growing pains with it.

I'm pretty sure at this point that I will be going with the Ryzen 1600 and stock cooler. If anyone has recommendations for motherboards or substitutes for components I listed in the OP, please feel free to list them. I will probably be ordering by the end of the weekend.
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I'd go with either ASus hero, Asrock taichi, fatality pro and Gskill Flare or other Samsung B die compatible with those motherboards
It seems with CPu bound scenarios Ram speed is most/more beneficial than even cpu Overclocking
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I'd go with either ASus hero, Asrock taichi, fatality pro and Gskill Flare or other Samsung B die compatible with those motherboards
It seems with CPu bound scenarios Ram speed is most/more beneficial than even cpu Overclocking

Those MBs are nice, but they're expensive. Any other board recommendations, or component changes that can free up cash for these boards?
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post #25 of 41
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Those MBs are nice, but they're expensive. Any other board recommendations, or component changes that can free up cash for these boards?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157761&ignorebbr=1

This one is a pretty viable option. From what i can see it has 9 Phases on the VRM's which is the most i could find on a B350. Aside from that it also sports 2 M.2.s which is uncommon, and it still has USB Type C on the back. You are giving up USB 3.1 because of the limit of lanes on the CPU. There are compromises to be made with the limit of lanes. All in all i feel this board gives a lot of options in-case you want to do something, even if you can't do it all at once. 1 of the M.2s is only SATA, but you could still use 2 drives. You have 6 SATA ports where most B350's have 4, but you are limited if you use the M.2s. Like i said it gives you options, but you can't use them all at once. That being said i think it looks like a solid board.
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post #26 of 41
Pretty much spot on, if you dont want to over spend on the motherboard this would be a good one.
I would say the Gaming one would perhaps be a even better choice.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CczZxr/asrock-fatal1ty-ab350-gaming-k4-atx-quad-cpu-am4-motherboard-fatal1ty-ab350-gaming-k4
post #27 of 41
Here is the thing I definitely think Ryzen is great and even did an overclocking guide for it here, but the answer depends on your use case. Benchmarks show Intel to still be your best choice for gaming. If we are talking gaming here, then Intel. If you want more like streaming, video editing, or anything that can take advantage of those cores then ryzen is a good candidate and probably cheaper. Single IPC Intel still wins and also you have to take into consideration that Windows has run perfectly on Intel for years. They are making good progress though with Ryzen optimization for Windows 10 like the new enhanced power plan.

My two cents is Intel for gaming and just better single threaded performance. In fact, Intel still is good for that other stuff but Ryzen will kick its ass in anything that is multi-threaded. So if you are going to do more rendering and streaming stuff and gaming get ryzen, if you just care about PC gaming really get intel. Ryzen is more of a balanced choice and Intel is better performance for gaming. I always say Intel is really good at PC gaming and okay at everything else and ryzen is okay at everything and better at multi-threaded stuff.

If you plan on overclocking you can check out my guide for ryzen on OCN here. Ryzen is kind of tough right now with all the updates that need to take place to smooth out the experience. I don't think you will be disappointed with either choice you make.

Remember you can still overclock on a B350 which is why ryzen is a compelling choice for overclockers and enthusiasts. Remember, all current Ryzen CPUs can be overclocked and are unlocked.
Edited by Jedson3614 - 5/4/17 at 11:12am
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Finding the motherboard/ram combo seems to be the hardest part with a Ryzen build. I'm actually thinking about getting the Asus Prime X370-Pro. Anyone want to share their experiences with it? I'm mostly interested in having a 24/7 stable OC. I don't plan to SLI, don't need WiFi, don't care about the looks.

EDIT: I should also add that I'm looking for a clean and easy to understand BIOS. I have limited overclocking experience and haven't done any overclocking in the past 10 years or so...
Edited by WBaS - 5/4/17 at 9:20am
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If you can afford it I would get the HERO, it overclocks the best in the tests I've seen and I also do have personal experience with it. It has had a steady flow of UEFI updates!
Edited by Jedson3614 - 5/4/17 at 11:12am
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if you can afford it I would get the HERO, it overclocks the best in the tests I've seen and I also do have personal experience with it. it has had a steady flow of UEFI updates!

I'm trying to stay under $200.

EDIT: I'm also considering ASRock X370 Killer SLI, but like I said above, I don't need the WiFi (just can't find non-WiFi version).
Edited by WBaS - 5/4/17 at 9:25am
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