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Hi,

I'm a long time lurker, really like this forum but never have a great deal to add tbh as I don't build/rebuild a lot. Got some great help in the past building my first PC a few years ago that's still going strong, however, now it's time to build again (using bits from the hulking tower). I need something small enough to move about, plus I don't put a lot of hardware in there so going for the itx F1 suppressor case.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/4Yyj7h

The case has a big 200mm front fan and optional 2 x 80mm rear ones. I didn't really want to use the rear ones because I wanted to avoid using my PWM splitter which means more wires (and an extra power lead with a molex) but the motherboard only has two headers. I was thinking along the lines of intake through the front and a cooler with a side fan, which in theory should pull in from the intake and push out the back.

I wasn't planning on overclocking, this is just for work/retro gaming, some steam games now and then (on lower settings).

My evo 212 wont fit in so I need another cooler for the 4670k, I don't have the stock one anymore. I initially though a C7 (£31) but the fan is top facing so my plan wont work. Also looking at:

1) Noctua NH-U9S £48
2) CRYORIG M9i - £28
3) be quiet! Pure Rock Slim - £26

They would all fit in this case. I thought having a decent cooler would negate the need for rear 80mm (i.e. more noise) fans. Also looking for an easy install, the 212 was a pita getting it to stay still whilst holding the bottom X shaped thing (that also moves about) and screw it in with one hand.

Feel free to let me know if my plan sucks or having the rear ones would be advisable. Thanks for any advice.
Edited by samwillc - 5/1/17 at 4:21am
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ARCTIC i11/13, better than the M9. smile.gif
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post #3 of 25
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Originally Posted by AyyMD View Post

ARCTIC i11/13, better than the M9. smile.gif

Ah, I ordered an m9i a few mins ago before reading this! Saw a video and it looked very simple to install and reviews are (mostly) favourable.

Are there big differences between, say the m9i and i11? I've only ever used 212 evo and has served me well on a few PCs. Obviously wont fit in this case though.
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post #4 of 25
I tested M9 and think it's a great little cooler. I don't like Thermaltake, but I don't know anything about ItX cases. I do know 200mm fans are not much good. 2x 120mm or 2x 140mm fans have more airflow at lower noise levels. wink.gif
post #5 of 25
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Originally Posted by samwillc View Post

Ah, I ordered an m9i a few mins ago before reading this! Saw a video and it looked very simple to install and reviews are (mostly) favourable.

Are there big differences between, say the m9i and i11? I've only ever used 212 evo and has served me well on a few PCs. Obviously wont fit in this case though.

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/cpu_air_cooler_mega_test/39


Doyll is right, the M9 is a great little cooler, but I'm not gonna say how easy it is to install on Intel as I only tested it on AMD.
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post #6 of 25
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

I do know 200mm fans are not much good. 2x 120mm or 2x 140mm fans have more airflow at lower noise levels. wink.gif

Yeah, is a shame I can't use my existing fans also. Got 2 x F12 and 2 x S12 with nowhere to go.

It's either a 200mm fan on this case or a single 120mm or 140mm (I think) on the front. Although the 200mm at 800rpm 'should' be pretty quiet. Maybe it's small enough to get away with 2 of my noctuas which are PWM. One stuck on the side of the m9i (F12) and one S12 on the front. Might have to ramp up too much though, never used an ITX case.

-EDIT- the F1 200mm intake is 130cfm so don't think a single s12a could compete.
Edited by samwillc - 5/1/17 at 8:03am
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post #7 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by samwillc View Post

Yeah, is a shame I can't use my existing fans also. Got 2 x F12 and 2 x S12 with nowhere to go.

It's either a 200mm fan on this case or a single 120mm or 140mm (I think) on the front. Although the 200mm at 800rpm 'should' be pretty quiet. Maybe it's small enough to get away with 2 of my noctuas which are PWM. One stuck on the side of the m9i (F12) and one S12 on the front. Might have to ramp up too much though, never used an ITX case.

-EDIT- the F1 200mm intake is 130cfm so don't think a single s12a could compete.

I have a V1, the same case as the F1, but with different front grille. The 130cfm quoted spec is a dream number in the open air on a windy day. Inside the confines of the case, that fan is lucky to push 30-40cfm...with half the airflow going straight into the back of the PSU. It's also a rough sounding fan. A high quality 120mm or 140mm will provide better airflow (where it's needed) with less noise.

EDIT: The S12 is probably not the best choice for intake - a P12 would be better - more static pressure. I use a 140mm Noc A15 in my V1 mounted on a custom gasket/mat of art foam to seal off the wasted space below deck.
Edited by MicroCat - 5/2/17 at 1:46am
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I have a V1, the same case as the F1, but with different front grille. The 130cfm quoted spec is a dream number in the open air on a windy day. Inside the confines of the case, that fan is lucky to push 30-40cfm...with half the airflow going straight into the back of the PSU. It's also a rough sounding fan. A high quality 120mm or 140mm will provide better airflow (where it's needed) with less noise.

EDIT: The S12 is probably not the best choice for intake - a P12 would be better - more static pressure. I use a 140mm Noc A15 in my V1 mounted on a custom gasket/mat of art foam to seal off the wasted space below deck.

The A15 looks decent, might grab one, thanks.
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post #9 of 25
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Originally Posted by samwillc View Post

The A15 looks decent, might grab one, thanks.
If you want more performance available, the TY-143 SQ is '£18.49 Very good fan with lots of extra performance on demand while being just as quiet as any other at same rpm .. like in the 500-1500rpm range. wink.gif
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thermalright-TY-Fan-Ball-22-209-M%C2%B3-Connector/dp/B01G2940J4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493717603&sr=8-1&keywords=ty-143+sq

You can get a TY-147A SQ here in UK for a little less money then the AP an I think it is just as good.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Noctua-NF-A15-PWM-140mm-150mm/dp/B00AA8B1MS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493717519&sr=8-1&keywords=nf-a15

Another option would be PH-F140MP for £14.86
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Fans-Cooling/Phanteks-Ph-f140mp-Pwm-140mm-PH-F140MP-BK/B00OP2PUDQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493717450&sr=8-1&keywords=ph-f140mp

I think Microcat would use be using TY fans if he could get them. tongue.gif
Edited by doyll - 5/2/17 at 2:37am
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Never knew the square one existed, TY-143 SQ en route. The numbers look impressive and (in theory) should be all I need (along with the M9i). Thanks for the suggestions.
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