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Dota 2 is basicly Dota imported in the Source engine. Development actually means spending time to... develop. There is literally nothing different in Dota 2 and Dota. Same skill names, skills, champions, items, heck even the ancient str, int, agility system for the heroes is due to the limitations that was present in WC3.

No it's not and you clearly don't know what you're talking about
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No it's not and you clearly don't know what you're talking about

Instead of being angry at others you should check it up yourself smile.gif

https://web.archive.org/web/20121109072424/http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/01/07/valves-next-game

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Instead of trying to make major adjustments to gameplay, Valve is concentrating more on infrastructure, art, and providing helpful tools to newcomers so they can figure out what's going on.
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At Valve, the goal is to avoid fiddling too much with the underlying formula. "There's the core gameplay," says Johnson, "the actual game rules for how you play Dota. We'd be pretty hard-pressed to improve on that. I feel like IceFrog's done such a good job at that and it's something that his level of experience is so much higher with that community that it probably doesn't make a lot of sense for us to go in and change a lot of that, so the core gameplay is the same."

So what does that mean? It means the number of creeps that spawn in a wave won't really change, the way items and equipment works will be simliar, the structure of lanes will be the same, and a lot of the included heroes will be returning from the original.

There is nothing wrong with taking a mod and repackaging it on a better engine and making QoL improvements. Thats how TF, CS started as well. However stating that Dota 2 is a completely new game developed by Valve is stretching it.
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hopefully he's going back to old man murray
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Instead of being angry at others you should check it up yourself smile.gif

https://web.archive.org/web/20121109072424/http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/01/07/valves-next-game

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There is nothing wrong with taking a mod and repackaging it on a better engine and making QoL improvements. Thats how TF, CS started as well. However stating that Dota 2 is a completely new game developed by Valve is stretching it.

Have you ever played it or you're just posting stuff you read on internet? Dota 2 is a complete new game, doesn't matter part of the game was taken or inspired from DotA, which is again, a WC3 mod. Many thing that are now on Dota 2 there weren't on DotA, many heroes names were changed, many heroes totally lost their old look and they look completely different compared to how they looked back then, many spells were changed, the map was altered a lot. Despite it being named Dota 2 and being pretty similar, i assure you many things are different, included core mechanics. They're similar games, but different, a bit like LoL to Dota 2
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It's actually pretty impressive.

Even without the team that built Half Life, Valve is STILL the most influential and revolutionary game company out there.

Just goes to show what an incredible leader Gabe is. thumb.gif

That's definitely arguable.

Steam is vastly overpriced these days and offers no advantage over it's physical product counterparts for a comparable - or more expensive price.
I for one haven't bought directly from steam in years as a result.

Then we have the Greenlight/Early Access nonsense where loads of crap appears (no QC).
Paid modding fiasco with Skyrim (obviously that was going to backfire with the slapdash implementation they used)
etc, etc, etc.

Steam used to be good about 5-6 years ago, back when they actually had good sales. Now they're just a crappier version of gamestop with a DRM master client that isn't so intrusive that people stop using steam.
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Valve is a digital Gamestop.

End of line....

That's an insult and you know it! Gamestop NEVER gave you more than a 5% sale... in spirit. rolleyes.gif
     
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Have you ever played it or you're just posting stuff you read on internet? Dota 2 is a complete new game, doesn't matter part of the game was taken or inspired from DotA, which is again, a WC3 mod. Many thing that are now on Dota 2 there weren't on DotA, many heroes names were changed, many heroes totally lost their old look and they look completely different compared to how they looked back then, many spells were changed, the map was altered a lot. Despite it being named Dota 2 and being pretty similar, i assure you many things are different, included core mechanics. They're similar games, but different, a bit like LoL to Dota 2

Honestly it really depends on how you view the term "development". I don't consider some visual updates and minor tweaks as "game development" even though it can require a bit of work.
Not to say valve has never made a game, I just do not consider dota2 (as popular as it may be) to be some new or ground breaking game that valve had to come up with from scratch, It just simply is not. Just my 2cents.gif
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Honestly it really depends on how you view the term "development". I don't consider some visual updates and minor tweaks as "game development" even though it can require a bit of work.
Not to say valve has never made a game, I just do not consider dota2 (as popular as it may be) to be some new or ground breaking game that valve had to come up with from scratch, It just simply is not. Just my 2cents.gif

Thing is it's valve didn't do just minor tweaks and visual updates, they rebuilt the whole game using brand new assets and textures so, it's really wrong to say valve didn't do dota 2, surely it wasn't a valve's idea or thinking, at least not most of it, but it's different
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Look everyone knew this was going to happen with digital.

It's a lot cheaper and more convenient than retail discs, so eventually, instead of getting cheaper products (like we did in the beginning), only the content owners see the lower costs and pass their increased profits on to you. rolleyes.gif

So from that perspective, I don't see the hate Steam gets. Also, if you buy crap games, that's your fault. Steam does offer refunds now - which is monumental in terms of digital distribution.

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If another company spearheaded Digital Distribution instead of Valve, like EA, or Walmart, or even Gamestop, I'm reminded of a Jurassic Park quote, "It could have been worse, John. A lot worse."

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That's definitely arguable.

Steam is vastly overpriced these days and offers no advantage over it's physical product counterparts for a comparable - or more expensive price.
I for one haven't bought directly from steam in years as a result.

Then we have the Greenlight/Early Access nonsense where loads of crap appears (no QC).
Paid modding fiasco with Skyrim (obviously that was going to backfire with the slapdash implementation they used)
etc, etc, etc.

Steam used to be good about 5-6 years ago, back when they actually had good sales. Now they're just a crappier version of gamestop with a DRM master client that isn't so intrusive that people stop using steam.

Haven't actually used the Steam client in 5 months. I almost always go gray market where digital is concerned for the reasons you described (like hell I'm waiting for an in house 'sale').

Why is DRM still even a thing?
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