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Would be interested in a full Windows version of this machine.

You can upgrade to normal windows on it for $50
 
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>When you can't decide whether you should fix Windows 10 pricacy or Windows 10 game mode so you get confused and make a MacBook

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Windows 10 S, this is the version that only supports apps from the Windows Store, no?
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>When you can't decide whether you should fix Windows 10 pricacy or Windows 10 game mode so you get confused and make a MacBook

 

W10 game mode fix is going into settings and toggling the radio button lol

   
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post #35 of 69
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Windows 10 S, this is the version that only supports apps from the Windows Store, no?
That is correct, though you apparently can upgrade to pro. Honestly Win10 S is a major turn off for me. If the Win10 Pro "upgrade" is ever taken off the table, I'd think this a worthless laptop. Who pays $1000+ to only use windows store apps?
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That is correct, though you apparently can upgrade to pro. Honestly Win10 S is a major turn off for me. If the Win10 Pro "upgrade" is ever taken off the table, I'd think this a worthless laptop. Who pays $1000+ to only use windows store apps?

I guess my fear would be that this is being marketed towards education, leading to schools having Windows 10 S, leading to devs being forced to use the awful(to me) Windows Store. Just seems like maybe this might be a slippery slope leading to them creating a more MS Store Dominance, but I sure hope I'm wrong.
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I guess my fear would be that this is being marketed towards education, leading to schools having Windows 10 S, leading to devs being forced to use the awful(to me) Windows Store. Just seems like maybe this might be a slippery slope leading to them creating a more MS Store Dominance, but I sure hope I'm wrong.
I'd certainly say that is their goal. If this sells enough maybe with the additional developer support will make the windows store not awful? The only problem then is I might start using it. wink.gif
Still, it's a good looking windows ultra book at the end of the day, and that's a good thing. They still are limiting the base model to 4GB of ram (not a fan) and giving a locked down software experience at an exorbitant price. Outside of aesthetics, I'd call this a pass.
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they need to stop forcing stuff down people's throats, windows users are not sheeple like mac users
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Microsoft trying to sneak Windows 10 S (formerly known as the cloud edition) in a $999 laptop instead of limiting it to the education market as some people here were defending that it wasn't a problem because of that?

I can't say that I didn't see this coming. Windows 10 S is going to be used outside of the education market. Locked down to use software from the Windows Store, with Edge locked as the default web browser and Bing locked as the default search engine.

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/248685-microsofts-999-surface-laptop-locked-overpriced-garbage-system

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When your spec sheet makes reference to color combinations and a felt-covered “luxurious Alcatera fabric-covered” keyboard, you aren’t exactly putting your best foot forward. Microsoft has already stated that the Surface Laptop’s $999 base price buys you an unidentified Core i5 microprocessor and a 128GB SSD, as if this was some kind of cutting-edge achievement. A Dell 13-inch Inspiron 2-in-1 can be had for the same price with a 256GB SSD and 8GB of RAM instead of 4GB.
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It gets worse. The Surface Laptop has no USB-C, no card reader, no hardware volume controls, and no HDMI. You do get mini-DisplayPort — we’d personally rather have HDMI, since it’s more widely compatible with other products without requiring a port converter or dongle, but your mileage may vary on this particular point. The Surface Laptop has one USB 3.0 port; for comparison, the Dell Inspiron has a USB 3.0 port, a USB-C port, and a USB 2.0 port.

One of these thousand-dollar laptops envisions that end users might want to copy data from an SD card to a USB thumb drive while having both devices plugged in at the same time. One does not. One of these laptops was designed by engineers who recognized that end users might want to charge a phone while also copying data from a thumb drive. One was not. And let’s be clear — Dell is far from the only company that offers vastly more features at the same (or very similar) price point.
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The Windows 10 S lock-down makes perfect sense when you’re competing against Chromebooks in the education market and need to offer your customers an easily administered option that will cut down on viruses or other forms of malware. It makes no sense whatsoever on a mainstream laptop. It also makes no sense that Microsoft would offer a $1,000 laptop with far fewer ports than you can get from another vendor.

Edited by tpi2007 - 5/3/17 at 8:50am
 
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yes it sucks not having options, but Edge is actually a good browser. If it had plugins like my Chrome I'd have no problem switch over.

Bing though? eww
     
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