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I right now have an old X58 system i think is upgradet and optimised to its fullest potential, but i consider going single GPU with a GTX 1080 TI and right now i have 2 x GTX 970 in SLI.

But im not sure my old setup can handle a single GTX 1080 TI. I game in 1080P (1920 x 1200) on a 24" monitor/screen, but in a very near future 4K monitor is not so far away, cause my old screen has some dead pixels so i am beginning to think of replacing that aswell. And with going single card again i am also thinking on getting one more M.2 NVMe SSD for games since i then get a PCIe slot free.

If i need to upgrade CPU what shut i go for then? i need at least 6 cores and 8 core would not hurt. I admit that then im baying new i favor intel. AMD ryzen is great for the price but overcloking is an importen thing for me and as far i have seen Ryzen dosent go much higher than 4 to 4.1 GHz and intel seems better suited for overclock on the other side of 4 GHz+. So i am thinking my self X99 or wait for Skylake-E/X299 or Intels Coofee lake that shut bring 6 core to mainstream or have you guys other ideas or **** i just keep my current X58 setup and get a new GPU and monitor.

system configuraton is right now:

Core i7 980X @ 4.25 GHz
Noctua NH-D14 CPU cooler with 3 Silverstone FM121 120 MM fans
ASUS P6X58D Premium second gen X58 motherboard with sata 3 and USB 3.0 onboard
12 GB DDR3 ram Corsair 1600 MHz triple channel (6 x 2 GB dims)
Samsung 950 PRO 256 GB M.2 NVMe SSD For OS/C-drive
Crusial M4 64 GB SSD
SAMSUNG EVO 250 GB SSD
CRUCIAL MX300 275 GB SSD
WD Velociraptor 150 GB 10000 RPM only one left cause the other one i had to run raid 0 desided to give up on life after 8 years of hard trusted work.
WD Caviar Black 1 TB
WD AV-GP 2 TB
2 x Zotac GTX 970 in sli
Thermaltake ToughPower 1500 Watt PSU
Antec Twelve Hundred.
Windows 10 PRO 64 bit
Samsung 24" SyncMaster 2443DW


This is how it is as of now.







Just for the fun of it and to ohter X58 owners. A little side note: Dam these old CPU can overclock like crazy even on air cooling.

post #2 of 12
I'd upgrade GPU and wait for X299 before changing platforms.

At 4K your cpu probably won't be the bottleneck anyway if you go that route.
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Originally Posted by aDyerSituation View Post

I'd upgrade GPU and wait for X299 before changing platforms.

At 4K your cpu probably won't be the bottleneck anyway if you go that route.

Sound great, money saved thumb.gif

And yeah i think if i should upgrade X299 is better to wait for any way and its not like my CPU is to slow for my daily work, its more if its to slow for at 1080 TI.
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If you want to go with 4K you need a monitor that is at least a 30 inch otherwise 4K is wasted because of the pixel density
You would be better off with a 27 inch 1440P 144+ Hz monitor instead like the Asus PG279Q or the Acer Predator XB271HU

1440P takes a lot GPU power to run and you still get 80% more pixels compared to 1080P.
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If you want to go with 4K you need a monitor that is at least a 30 inch otherwise 4K is wasted because of the pixel density
You would be better off with a 27 inch 1440P 144+ Hz monitor instead like the Asus PG279Q or the Acer Predator XB271HU

1440P takes a lot GPU power to run and you still get 80% more pixels compared to 1080P.

Point taken. There is not space for a 30" on my desktop so 27" UHD might be the way to go. And does one GTX 1080 Ti even have the power to 4K any way?
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Point taken. There is not space for a 30" on my desktop so 27" UHD might be the way to go. And does one GTX 1080 Ti even have the power to 4K any way?
It can do 4K in some games at 60 FPS but i would call it barely 4K capable
1440P on the other hand is a lot less demanding and even the normal GTX 1080 can do 60 FPS in almost all games other then a handful

I own the Asus PG279Q myself and untill a few weeks ago when i bought an EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 i did not have a GPU that could play games in 1440P very well which means the monitor was wasted

If you look at this review on TPU you can see how much slower the GTX 1080 Ti is in 4K compared to 1440P
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_1080_Ti_SC2/

Dont know what games you are playing or want to play but a GTX 1080 Ti will do more then 60 FPS in almost everything where it wont in 4K.
Edited by shilka - 5/2/17 at 1:03pm
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

It can do 4K in some games at 60 FPS but i would call it barely 4K capable
1440P on the other hand is a lot less demanding and even the normal GTX 1080 can do 60 FPS in almost all games other then a handful

I own the Asus PG279Q myself and untill a few weeks ago when i bought an EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 i did not have a GPU that could play games in 1440P very well which means the monitor was wasted

If you look at this review on TPU you can see how much slower the GTX 1080 Ti is in 4K compared to 1440P
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_1080_Ti_SC2/

Dont know what games you are playing or want to play but a GTX 1080 Ti will do more then 60 FPS in almost everything where it wont in 4K.

Well i think that makes i clear then. UHD is the way to go. I can not afford two 1080 TI + a 4K monitor and two GTX 1080 Ti sli for 1080P is just plain silly.

I play good variation of games like Crysis 3, far cry 4, BF1 and 4, Need for speed games, watch dogs, Alien Isolation, ark survival, metro 2033/last light and so on. But mostly FPS games.
post #8 of 12
Another thing you should know before you go out and buy one is that M.2 SSD´s does not decrease load times in games
Linus tech tips made a video about it not too long ago and their tests showed that there is zero gain with M.2 compared to the older SATA III

Games simply cant and dont use all that extra speed and all loading times where exactly the same both with M.2 and SATA III
I would go with a bigger SATA III SSD instead get a 1 TB drive or bigger instead of an M.2 if you can spend that much.
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Yes i am aware of it al throw i deed feel some improvement in some games with my current M.2 SSD. The reason is that i dont have more free sata ports on my motherboard rolleyes.gif

So i have 2 chioses. Bay a sata 3 PCIe adaptor and a SSD or a M.2 Adaptor and a M.2 SSD more. And since M.2 is more future prof i will go with and M.2 SSD more.
post #10 of 12
There's nothing "future-proof" about M.2. It's just another interface. It does allow for more compact storage solutions and opens the possibility of NVMe, but the real-world benefit of NVMe over AHCI is nearly impossible to feel and only noticeable with benchmarks.

I understand your "need" for overclocking, but Ryzen is plenty capable. Then again, so is your i7-980X. I'm personally in a similar boat and I'm waiting for Coffee Lake. By then, Skylake-X will be on the market and we might have some insight on second-gen Ryzen. I personally plan on finally moving on from Westmere with Coffee Lake, which should simply be Skylake/Kaby Lake with a 6-core option available.

As far as gaming resolution, I think 4K gaming is maybe two generations away from being financially reasonable. If you feel like you need to step up your gaming resolution, 1440p is a more reasonable option. It sounds like that's where you're currently leaning. If 4K gaming isn't so damned expensive in two generations, you shouldn't have much of a problem moving your 1440p monitor, if you even want to sell it.
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