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I am on Windows 7 and have used Spybot Anti-Beacon before, version 1.4 around 9 months ago. I had it installed previously, version 1.4 and everything was working great. There was a small issue with one of my Windows updates where I had to disable immunizations to get my internet working. So I left it disabled and uninstalled Spybot Anti-Beacon from that day forward. Two days ago I saw that there was a new version and decided to install it again, except this time opting for the portable version. I installed it and everything went through properly as I ran it as Administrator (applying all immunizations).

As soon as I loaded up the internet I noticed something odd, there was this very noticeable scrolling lag that took place. The pages themselves load up very quickly, however the actual web browsing itself seems to have been incredibly bogged down and slowed down. There is a delay in scrolling, sometimes stuttering/hitching, and overall slowness of browsing pages. I was extremely frustrated because the issue presented itself as soon as I was done applying the immunizations with Spybot Anti-Beacon. So I decided to remove the immunizations and restart. The issue still presented itself. After trying many various things. Using different browsers; Mozilla, Opera, I discovered that the issue presented itself in other browsers also.

I tried a restore point, and that didn't fix it.

I tried reinstalling video card drivers using DDU and that didn't fix it.

I tried going into the hosts file and restoring a hosts file to an older version. This seemed to work slightly better but eventually it would begin to bog down again.

Tried updating Windows, that didn't fix it

Noticed with Chrome when Hardware Acceleration is enabled it seems to work a lot better (smoother), but still not as good as pre-Spybot Anti-Beacon 1.6 and of course pre-Spybot Anti-Beacon 1.6 install I had it disabled (Hardware Acceleration) and it was smooth as butter. After playing with it a bit it seems that even with Hardware Acceleration on, eventually it bogs down again after browsing for around 5-10 minutes.

Tried uninstalling and reinstalling Chrome. Uninstalled all other browsers. Tried using Internet Explorer, noticed while it does seem to scroll quicker than Chrome, load times are obviously slower. Haven't had a chance to use IE casually.

Ran Spybot S&D

Ran Malwarebytes

Ran Avira

Ran SuperAntiSpyware

Ran Slim Cleaner

The issue doesn't present itself on the Desktop at all. Meaning it happens as far as I'm aware, only in the Internet Browsers themselves. Actual performance on the desktop is great. Games run fine and smooth (just did a 30 minute Doom Arcade Mode session without any issues while listening to music without any comparative performance issues). Which makes me 100% certain it is a Anti-Beacon problem. Only issue is, I do not know of other settings it might change or try to change that could cause the defunct browsing experience. I do know that in the log file it says many of the settings it tries to disable or modify are for Windows 10 only, something I do not remember in version 1.4. But the desktop experience is normal, loading up programs, scrolling in programs, using programs. There is no lag or slowness on the desktop or in games. The issue seems to be isolated to internet browsing.

Specs are in Sig rig but here is the rundown:

Windows 7 Ultimate
Intel i7-2600k HT-on
16GB 2133MHz memory
GTX 780
SSD

So there really should be absolutely no issues with general browsing, the problem seems to resonate when running multiple tabs, loading pictures, or similar multitasking. I've never had such issues with the computer until after using Spybot Anti-Beacon 1.6. The problem took effect immediately. As in, as soon as I applied the Immunizations and went back on the internet. The problem began. To give a good example of what it feels like, for those who are familiar with framerate, it is almost as if framerate is dropping extensively. As in, it is smooth scrolling @ 60 fps and then it is dropping to 45 fps or lower at times. It's even more apparent when you slowly scroll. There is like a slight pause while trying to scroll down or up like it is loading something (even though the page is already fully loaded).

I have another computer, a laptop that has much worse specs than my desktop and it doesn't exhibit the issue . I really would like to fix this issue without having to do a fresh install of windows because that would really be terrible. I'm pretty much stumped as to what else to do. I'm hoping that maybe people who understand the program might know of some other settings Anti-Beacon could have interfered with that could be reversed that might resolve the issue, as I really have no other idea what to do. I'm tempted to do the Windows 10 upgrade very soon because I do not know of anything else to try, but this is increasingly aggravating because the computer was running perfectly before using Spybot Anti-Beacon. Only thing I'm worried about is grabbing a Windows 10 key, upgrading to Windows 10 then of course the problem still existing which means I wasted all that time and money for a Windows 10 key.

Hoping someone here can help.
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The absolute best way to deal spying apps and bloatware is to disable/uninstall the offending part of Windows that Spybot Anti-beacon blocks. When I installed SAB recently, it found and blocked only 5 beacons/trackers that I hadn't already removed.

I use Windows 10. Opera is my browser with plugins ABP and Ghostery to stop unwanted online nonsense.

I recently rebuilt my Windows 10 to remove users/consolidate user data, so I'll be going through my Windows streamline process again very soon. Maybe I'll find the time to make notes...

To see what's involved to clean things up at the application level in Windows 10 (Windows 7 would be simpler), you can start here: Cleaning the Bloat from Windows 10
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The absolute best way to deal spying apps and bloatware is to disable/uninstall the offending part of Windows that Spybot Anti-beacon blocks.

I wouldn't know where to begin, are you saying open up the program using it as a guide of what it alters, and then manual search for each thing it modifies/changes?
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I wouldn't know where to begin, are you saying open up the program using it as a guide of what it alters, and then manual search for each thing it modifies/changes?

Yes. Look to see what anti-beacon alters and then research how to disable those things in Windows. Lots of material has been produced detailing easy ways to remove windows bloatware/spyware/etc...

Since you're new to these concepts, I suggest starting with installing Opera (or any firefox-based browser) and then the plugins ABP and Ghostery. This may solve only some of your browsing problems, but will definitely make the internet a more enjoyable place to visit. thumb.gif
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Yes. Look to see what anti-beacon alters and then research how to disable those things in Windows. Lots of material has been produced detailing easy ways to remove windows bloatware/spyware/etc...

Since you're new to these concepts, I suggest starting with installing Opera (or any firefox-based browser) and then the plugins ABP and Ghostery. This may solve only some of your browsing problems, but will definitely make the internet a more enjoyable place to visit. thumb.gif

I already use Ublock Origin which is basically Ghostery and Adblock Plus in one.

Moving along, I looked at some registry entries that Spybot supposedly modifies, now this is the funny thing is I have the entries in the Registry (folder wise), but the specific entries that Spybot modifies are completely gone (I don't have AllowTelemetry or CEIPEnable):



Now just to clarify something real quick, I am not new to these concepts at all. You seem to be confused, using Spybot Anti-Beacon 1.6 caused an issue with my computer. I'm not exactly looking to use the program or disable the same exact things that it disables. I am trying to reverse the damage caused by the program itself.
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I see now. I thought you wanted the results without running the program. That having the program running was causing problems, but it's the results that have caused problems. Gotcha. I wonder what it broke... Many of the changes Spybot Anti-beacon performs are not permanent on my machine. I have to start it and enable the blocks. But that's Windows 10 and I may have different system settings than you.

I recently ran an app called 'Tweaking.com Windows repair': Tweaking.com

It will reset many of the Windows settings so you don't have to run a fresh Windows install. Has worked well for me when I've gone too far in the registry, etc... Of course, I'm running Windows 10. YMMV

This is what my Spybot Anti-beacon now looks like afterwards:




For the most part, it looks as though much of what SpyBotAB does is in Task Scheduler and Services. Most of that can be remedied within those Administrative Apps.

Was your change list always that short?
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Just ran the Tweaking.com application, not going to have a chance to use the computer for an extended period of time until tomorrow, but I will have to double check to see if anything is better. Things seem smoother, but that could be because I haven't used it extensively yet. Also I might want to run it again, because after it restarted it was going to do something with the registry but Avira blocked it, so I have to disable Avira registry editing blocking and re-run it just in case.

My list was always that short definitely.

Any idea on how to check the Task Scheduler and Services to restore them back to what they were before Anti-Beacon changed them or at least check them to see if they are enabled and were undone.
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Just ran the Tweaking.com application, not going to have a chance to use the computer for an extended period of time until tomorrow, but I will have to double check to see if anything is better. Things seem smoother, but that could be because I haven't used it extensively yet. Also I might want to run it again, because after it restarted it was going to do something with the registry but Avira blocked it, so I have to disable Avira registry editing blocking and re-run it just in case.

My list was always that short definitely.

Any idea on how to check the Task Scheduler and Services to restore them back to what they were before Anti-Beacon changed them or at least check them to see if they are enabled and were undone.

With The Task Scheduler, almost any task that is listed and disabled and not marked as 'run once' is a good candidate as long as you actually have the software installed.

With services, anything that says 'telemetry' in the name is probably gonna be it.

I'm still scratching my head, though as what Spybot could have screwed up. I'm really big on ripping everything unnecessary out and my machine only gets faster/better when I do it. What usually slows my system is allowing overly aggressive firewall and especially real-time antivirus software to run while I'm browsing... I'm just using the standard Windows apps for that now as Avast! took me down to a crawl and made my mouse jitter and lock up.

Just for giggles, open your task manager while browsing and see if there's a process burdening your CPU or blasting your network connection while browsing. I just don't see how disabling telemetry/spyware can be causing this... Usually, telemetry/spyware causes such problems.
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With The Task Scheduler, almost any task that is listed and disabled and not marked as 'run once' is a good candidate as long as you actually have the software installed.

With services, anything that says 'telemetry' in the name is probably gonna be it.

I'm still scratching my head, though as what Spybot could have screwed up. I'm really big on ripping everything unnecessary out and my machine only gets faster/better when I do it. What usually slows my system is allowing overly aggressive firewall and especially real-time antivirus software to run while I'm browsing... I'm just using the standard Windows apps for that now as Avast! took me down to a crawl and made my mouse jitter and lock up.

Just for giggles, open your task manager while browsing and see if there's a process burdening your CPU or blasting your network connection while browsing. I just don't see how disabling telemetry/spyware can be causing this... Usually, telemetry/spyware causes such problems.

So I went through Task Scheduler and basically there was not much being scheduled. Is there a specific section that you go in? On the main page, where it says Active Tasks there are around 48 but you cannot modify them. When I go into task scheduler library though there are options to enable, disable, delete etc. but there are very few scheduled tasks in there almost nothing.

With services couldn't seem to find anything regarding Telemetry, scanning through there nothing really sticks out. Guess the only thing to do would be to go search for each entry which seems like a pain, but I might have to do it.

Have to browse while having the task manager running in the background to see if anything is hitting the network connection, CPU usage seems really low though. Here's a brief outlay of what it looked like while watching a Youtube video. Not sure if this is bad or not. About to run Tweaking.com again.




For the most part my previous Tweaking.com run seems to have positive effects from using it today. Need more time with it, but from a quick overview so far so good.
Edited by BiG StroOnZ - 5/3/17 at 2:28pm
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So I went through Task Scheduler and basically there was not much being scheduled. Is there a specific section that you go in? On the main page, where it says Active Tasks there are around 48 but you cannot modify them. When I go into task scheduler library though there are options to enable, disable, delete etc. but there are very few scheduled tasks in there almost nothing.

With services couldn't seem to find anything regarding Telemetry, scanning through there nothing really sticks out. Guess the only thing to do would be to go search for each entry which seems like a pain, but I might have to do it.

Have to browse while having the task manager running in the background to see if anything is hitting the network connection, CPU usage seems really low though. Here's a brief outlay of what it looked like while watching a Youtube video. Not sure if this is bad or not. About to run Tweaking.com again.
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For the most part my previous Tweaking.com run seems to have positive effects from using it today. Need more time with it, but from a quick overview so far so good.

I'm glad things are working out for you. I would definitely turn off all anti-virus apps and run the Tweaker again to let it finish its work. It seems to restore most defaults for me. The only other thing to look for is any installed USB devices that may be taking cycles from your mouse.
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