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I like JonnyGuru's comment on that TechPowerUp article and comment section...
I'll stick with reading JonnyGuru for all my power supply information needs.

Of every tech review site out there, I think Johnny Guru is the only one who I trust enough to make a purchase solely on his reviews.
post #12 of 33
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Of every tech review site out there, I think Johnny Guru is the only one who I trust enough to make a purchase solely on his reviews.

^ This exactly, so many review sites out there (even ones with good reps) that have questionable reviews of at least certain products. JG on the other hand is like clockwork, doesn't matter who's the manufacturer, who's company is on the label, etc. He just tells it like it is, I know his site is my 1st stop when I'm looking at a new PSU, regardless of how many certification stickers are on the box. thumb.gif
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Of every tech review site out there, I think Johnny Guru is the only one who I trust enough to make a purchase solely on his reviews.

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^ This exactly, so many review sites out there (even ones with good reps) that have questionable reviews of at least certain products. JG on the other hand is like clockwork, doesn't matter who's the manufacturer, who's company is on the label, etc. He just tells it like it is, I know his site is my 1st stop when I'm looking at a new PSU, regardless of how many certification stickers are on the box. thumb.gif

3rd this. When it comes to PC parts, I do the following:

Google search to find more information about said part.
Youtube to find reviews by credible reviewers.
Reddit to see what the general mass thinks about said part.

When it comes to PSU, I say the hell with all that. JG is the only stop I take. I fanboy cult follow what's on that site. If he says it's garbage, the hell with it lol.
post #14 of 33
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Second separate opinion on power supply performance. They are also testing a much larger efficiency range than 80+ and also testing noise. They are even reporting ripple at different loads.

So basically what Jonny Guru already has been doing for years, just calling themselves an agency and requiring people to pay them for same tests JG does.
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So basically what Jonny Guru already has been doing for years, just calling themselves an agency and requiring people to pay them for same tests JG does.

Pay? I looked at any PSU I wanted, their tests are thorough. I like JG too, but it's nice to have multiple groups doing the same tests so you can see commonalities.
 
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So basically what Jonny Guru already has been doing for years, just calling themselves an agency and requiring people to pay them for same tests JG does.

Basically but Aris was competing with JonnyGURU before this anyways. Here are the updated responses from JonnyGURU.
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Originally Posted by iBruce 

Wondering why Jonnyguru.com and Oklahoma Wolf have so far opted out of involvement in this program? confused.gif Maybe they just said no.

What do you mean "opt out"?

Tom's and TPU are involved because the program is run by the same guy that writes Tom's and TPU's reviews (Aris). TecLab is just promoting it. Not sure what "involvement" you think there is there?

What do you expect jonnyguru.com to do?

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Originally Posted by JonyGURU 
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Originally Posted by iBruce 
iBruce said:
As a consumer, not seeing jonnyguru.com involved somehow when a new PSU rating system is created is disappointing and discouraging, not to mention disheartening. Maybe I assumed, the organizers would somehow contact your group for recommendations and/or input or direction or how to proceed and if I was managing the group I would want your involvement from start to finish.

Apologize if my message sounded as if it was assigning any irresponsibility, that was not the purpose whatsoever, more of a headscratcher as to why your name was not mentioned.


Thanks for the clarification.


Eagerly awaiting the Seasonic Prime 1000watt Titanium Review. smile.gif

That's not how it works. biggrin.gif

Aris isn't "partnering" with anyone. He has a MASSIVE lab of his own. In fact: His house is a lab with a bedroom attached. He doesn't NEED any "partnership". He does, however, have our (jonnyguru.com and other review sites) support. That's the best thing anyone can offer him.

You can't have this thing as a data aggregate from multiple sources (i.e. review sites). It needs to be consistent methodology using the same equipment each time.

The problem with 80 PLUS is that they've had the same methodology for 10 years. They can't update or improve it because that would negate everything they've tested prior to any such updates. They're stuck. But, then again, they're not really in the business of testing for anything but efficiency. That's their goal. Not performance. Not build quality. The problem is, as someone previously mentioned, people mistake efficiency for quality. There's Gold units that aren't as good as some Bronze units, for example. And it's not a "small minority" as someone else stated. MOST PEOPLE believe this. I just came back from a trip to S.E. Asia where I met up with a bunch of retailers and almost every single retailer and their customer thought that Gold was better QUALITY than Bronze. Platinum is better QUALITY than Silver, etc. Mostly because of a lack of proper reviews in their native languages.

So I think this is a good thing. Any kind of PROPER database (proper unlike those God awful "tier lists") is a step in the right direction for educating the consumer.

And I bet you can't wait for that Prime 1000W review... you Seasonic shill you!!!! (I'M KIDDING!!!!!! wink.gif)

Seems a bit more supportive of it that the first post of his.
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That is because the post quoted above was misunderstood.
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I like JonnyGuru's comment on that TechPowerUp article and comment section...
I'll stick with reading JonnyGuru for all my power supply information needs.

You haven't provided the context to that post. He's not calling Aris and this company a bunch of idiots, he was calling the commentators on that TPU article a bunch of idiots. Jonny's been supporting this from the get go. He also has nothing to do with Jonnyguru.com anymore, so his posts leading you to make that statement is weird.
post #18 of 33
Nice to see anything more useful than the 80+ rating... I also like how they give us all the data. The data they provide is useful for review sites to then do comparison write ups to save time for consumers. At the end of the day you are going to find a few PSUs under the rating system that have the same rating but you still are going to want to know what is best for you and that is where reviewers still have their place.

I see this new certification as a great thing and I hope to see more PSUs in the database asap.
post #19 of 33
whats worrying is the manufacturer's habits of doing a revision and simply carrying over the certifications, this is simply cheating.
e.g. tests for certification were done for version 1.0, but the same certificates were used for version 1.2.
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All I want is the crackdown on 20$ 700W PSUs that weigh less than a pack of M&Ms.
    
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