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As we informed you back in April, the latest version of the Denuvo anti-tamper tech was partially cracked. A certain group was able to crack the 32bit version of the Denuvo anti-tamper tech, however its 64bit version was still uncrackable. Until today as a ‘certain’ group was able to crack the latest version of Mass Effect: Andromeda.

As we’ve already informed you, Electronic Arts and BioWare have implemented the latest version of the Denuvo anti-tamper tech to the latest version of Mass Effect: Andromeda.

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From what we know so far, Dead Rising 4, Nier: Automata, Sniper: Ghost Warrior 3 and Mass Effect: Andromeda are powered by this new version of the Denuvo anti-tamper tech.

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Color me unsuprised. Anyone claiming something is uncrackable is wrong. Anything is with enough resources.
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Good. DRM hurts paying customers most. The argument that pirates are lost sales is bullcrap anyway - a pirate either downloads the game to test it and see if it's worth it's money (sad that this is necessary these days) and buys it if it is, or a pirate downloads a game he was never planning on buying anyway.

That said, all hail steam refunds rolleyes.gif
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Shame for the publishers
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Good. DRM hurts paying customers most. The argument that pirates are lost sales is bullcrap anyway - a pirate either downloads the game to test it and see if it's worth it's money (sad that this is necessary these days) and buys it if it is, or a pirate downloads a game he was never planning on buying anyway.

That said, all hail steam refunds rolleyes.gif

Yeah because pirates never download games they would buy, and play them for free instead of paying for them. I bet if grocery stores went on the honor system they'd make so much money!!! Car dealerships should do that too!! They all don't understand like you clearly do that people will pay for things if they can get away without paying for them...bunch of stupid business people aren't very trusting...
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Yeah because pirates never download games they would buy, and play them for free instead of paying for them. I bet if grocery stores went on the honor system they'd make so much money!!! Car dealerships should do that too!! They all don't understand like you clearly do that people will pay for things if they can get away without paying for them...bunch of stupid business people aren't very trusting...

People who are fixated on stealing/pirating will steal/pirate one way or another. Just like you have shoplifters/thieves.
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Yeah because pirates never download games they would buy, and play them for free instead of paying for them. I bet if grocery stores went on the honor system they'd make so much money!!! Car dealerships should do that too!! They all don't understand like you clearly do that people will pay for things if they can get away without paying for them...bunch of stupid business people aren't very trusting...

If you never intended to pay for it, you were never a potential sale in the first place. is it still stealing/ Of course. But what would you call someone who borrowed a DRM free version of a PC game or simply a xb or ps game? Are they pirates or lost sales?

Something i was thinking about the other day::
I skip throughout complete walkthroughs of new games that i may or may not buy and more often than not, ill end up just watching the entire playthough as the game turns out to be just another boring AAA or lazy indie title, but ill stick around for the story if its somewhat interesting. Now, that may not seem an issue at face value, nor be considered piracy, but when you take into account that i got to see what the game had to offer and all the hardwork that went into making it and all from start to finish, despite not paying for that game, I still got to "enjoy" it for free all the same,

Considering todays SP games (more so the AAA market ) are nothing but hand holding QTE based reskinned annual releases that are about as interactive and stimulating as the title screen of a bluray/dvd movie, Im not missing out on much and getting just as much out of that game as if i were the one pressing F to pay respect or dying through cheap insta-deaths in Outlast 2 (which is far more enjoyable to watch than play), all without the frustration of which that entails and enjoying the added bonus of being able to skip what would otherwise be an unskippable cutscene or segment of the game.


Would i count as a lost sale or a pirate, or is game piracy only something that occurs when complete game files have been obtained illegally? What if i download those files but never launch the game and instead choose to just watch the game in full on YT? I have the files, ive seen the game from start to finish, but does that make me guilt free since i wasnt the one in control of the protagonist?
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Yeah because pirates never download games they would buy, and play them for free instead of paying for them. I bet if grocery stores went on the honor system they'd make so much money!!! Car dealerships should do that too!! They all don't understand like you clearly do that people will pay for things if they can get away without paying for them...bunch of stupid business people aren't very trusting...
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The point is that publishers never learn that a crack for their game will always be developed.



Denuvo also lie about being uncrackable?
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Yeah because pirates never download games they would buy, and play them for free instead of paying for them. I bet if grocery stores went on the honor system they'd make so much money!!! Car dealerships should do that too!! They all don't understand like you clearly do that people will pay for things if they can get away without paying for them...bunch of stupid business people aren't very trusting...
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Can't tell if sarcasm. Most of the people that pirate, never had the intention of buying the game in the first place. Game doesn't get cracked? The pirate doesn't play it - because he won't buy it either.

What you don't seem to understand is that a pirated copy doesn't cost any money to the publisher if the person who pirated the copy would never have bought it in the first place.

The examples you give cost the owner/creator money - which is why the comparison is off.
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The point is that publishers never learn that a crack for their game will always be developed.

Denuvo also lie about being uncrackable?

They didn't lie. The crackers are simply more competent than the programmers. Programmers couldn't find flaws - and assume there aren't any because they lack the insight that maybe other people are better at it then them.
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