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Originally Posted by umeng2002 View Post

Intel puts junk TIM on their K parts & nVidia has draconian Power and Voltage limitations.

So better let the power completely loss and people can do whatever they want?
That really did went great with AMD up until they were forced to lock the 480s power to prevent old motherboards from dying.

Limitations I understand, as they are sometimes there to prevent the dummies to screw things up, and than giving bad PR or making made up problems because of their own fault.
At the end of the day, if you give too much rope, some one will try to hung you with it. So they are forced, business wise, to give you just the minimum amount that they think it is safe for them.

I mean, why do you think intel, amd, nvidia, put heavy throttling on their CPUs and GPUs? Because people were pushing those chips way beyond safety without any knowledge or understanding, burning them up, and then claiming for warranty replacement. It cost too much to give too much.
As a business, it is way too much money.
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Intel puts junk TIM on their K parts & nVidia has draconian Power and Voltage limitations.

So better let the power completely loss and people can do whatever they want?
That really did went great with AMD up until they were forced to lock the 480s power to prevent old motherboards from dying.

Limitations I understand, as they are sometimes there to prevent the dummies to screw things up, and than giving bad PR or making made up problems because of their own fault.
At the end of the day, if you give too much rope, some one will try to hung you with it. So they are forced, business wise, to give you just the minimum amount that they think it is safe for them.

Stock clocks are now too much rope, next you'll be advocating for Intel to lower stock clocks so they don't throttle :lachen:

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Mine's at stock clocks on a H60, verified the thermal paste application & mounting it's all good.

Still I get load temps in gaming of about 65-75c, on my old 3570K same setup it never went above 55.

It's extremely disappointing that Intel sell these unlocked chips at a premium compared to the locked SKUs then say 'oopps lol nope you can't do anything with the extra money you spent'

Surely motherboards that have the auto-overclock features (like mine does) where it auto jacks the voltage up for you would void the warranty on these chips also, which to someone who's not as deep into overclocking they might be voiding their warranty completely unknowingly.

Dirty move Intel, how about you re-engineer your IHS so the thermal performance isn't so terrible?
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Yes, I did read the source, and the link to the forums.
Because apparently, you didn't. What a shocker. rolleyes.gif Posting "you didn't read the source" when you didn't read it yourself. Damn OCN members are losing their brain cells apparently.

There are no mentions to stock or anything likewise in the source. The source talks about intel saying "don't overclock" and passive aggressive bash intel for it.

The original poster on the forums, talks about +30 degrees, and talks about stress test at 71c, not 90-100c.
There are numerous there posts about jumped temps, but not 90-100c at stock as most rarely reach 80c.
People then talk about OCing, and how their 4.7ghz cpu is running at close to 90c etc and blame intel for it...

Did you read the title and jumped on the intel hate bandwagon? Apparently so.
You're the one who posted first.
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Some owners of Intel's Core i7-7700 and 7700K processors have been complaining for the past three months of unusual temperature increases. According to user accounts, temps sometimes spike up to 90C, close to the Core i7-7700's maximum 100C threshold
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The TL;DR version is that everything checks out on Intel's end and users should not overclocked their Core i7-7700K processors, which have unlocked multipliers specifically for overclocking.
To add to this^
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/overclocking-intel-processors.html

Also you missed the quote from a fellow OCN member.
Edited by Ashura - 5/5/17 at 2:18am
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You're the one who posted first.

To add to this^
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/overclocking-intel-processors.html

Also you missed the quote from a fellow OCN member.

It's not as if Intel could use some good press at the moment or anything either since the Ryzen launch................
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So better let the power completely loss and people can do whatever they want?
That really did went great with AMD up until they were forced to lock the 480s power to prevent old motherboards from dying.

Limitations I understand, as they are sometimes there to prevent the dummies to screw things up, and than giving bad PR or making made up problems because of their own fault.
At the end of the day, if you give too much rope, some one will try to hung you with it. So they are forced, business wise, to give you just the minimum amount that they think it is safe for them.

I mean, why do you think intel, amd, nvidia, put heavy throttling on their CPUs and GPUs? Because people were pushing those chips way beyond safety without any knowledge or understanding, burning them up, and then claiming for warranty replacement. It cost too much to give too much.
As a business, it is way too much money.

nVidia and Intel do it to sell the next higher product.

AMD chips simply don't clock well no matter what.
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I say : CLASS ACTION and make them learn for their sins biggrin.gif
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Time to go back with VIA!
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Good, I don't like my overclocking sanctioned by Intel. I'm pretty sure that's just a corporate statement designed to scare people, it would be interesting to see Intel deny your RMA and attempt prove you killed a cpu by overclock.
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So better let the power completely loss and people can do whatever they want?
That really did went great with AMD up until they were forced to lock the 480s power to prevent old motherboards from dying.

Limitations I understand, as they are sometimes there to prevent the dummies to screw things up, and than giving bad PR or making made up problems because of their own fault.
At the end of the day, if you give too much rope, some one will try to hung you with it. So they are forced, business wise, to give you just the minimum amount that they think it is safe for them.

I mean, why do you think intel, amd, nvidia, put heavy throttling on their CPUs and GPUs? Because people were pushing those chips way beyond safety without any knowledge or understanding, burning them up, and then claiming for warranty replacement. It cost too much to give too much.
As a business, it is way too much money.

nVidia and Intel do it to sell the next higher product.

AMD chips simply don't clock well no matter what.

My FX8320 that is overclocked by 1 GHz laughs at your statement.

 

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I say : CLASS ACTION and make them learn for their sins biggrin.gif

Everyone in the US get ready for 30 USD in 10 years.

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