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hi all, just a quick question im looking to invest into a new pc trying to keep the price to a minimum.. Im unsure whether to a buy a r5 1600 or a 7700k. I know theres is a good price difference between the two but im wondering if the r5 1600 will be still be able to hold its own in gaming 2-3years down the line. im a heavy gamer so i want a cpu that can live up to the task, i want to keep the cost down as much as possible so im not overly confident on purchasing the 7700k as its rather expensive for my budget. However, if the r5 1600 is not going to be capable of keeping with the lastest titles a couple of years down the line ill save up some more and invest in the 7700k.
So my question is rather this, will the r5 1600 be able to play the lastest titles a few years from now?
im pairing it with my current evga gtx 1060 6gb sc on a 80hz monitor, can i expect to see a minimum of 80fps in nearly all titles?

i will be running the ryzen chip on 3200mhz 16gb ram

lets say in 2 years if i purchased the lastest gpu like the 1180ti would i play games at over 80fps on the r5? or would the r5 be suffering keeping at those frames in games like gta 6 for example
Edited by browny2911 - 5/5/17 at 4:13pm
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Gaming only 7700k

Theoretically in the future the extra cores could lead to better performance.

But it's not true now
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but with only having a 80hz monitor, is it worth getting the 7700k? or will the ryzen be more than acceptable at keeping an 80fps minimum if so paired with the latest gpu?
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The 1600 will be the safest buy not for the next two years but for the next 5 or more . It's a brand new architecture with six physical cores and twelve threads and games are starting to take advantage of that. Since it's also cheaper the choice is easy.
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will the ryzen be more than acceptable at keeping an 80fps minimum if so paired with the latest gpu?
Yes.
post #5 of 186
ATM probably should be good on 80 on all but the most CPU intensive games that aren't taking advantage of your extra cores.

And if you can't there are probably key settings you can downgrade to take a lot of load off your CPU (certain effects tend to be poorly optimized and drag the whole games performance down)

Really you should go i5 not i7 and there is no comparison from a monetary perspective IMO, again gaming only
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ATM probably should be good on 80 on all but the most CPU intensive games that aren't taking advantage of your extra cores.

And if you can't there are probably key settings you can downgrade to take a lot of load off your CPU (certain effects tend to be poorly optimized and drag the whole games performance down)

Really you should go i5 not i7 and there is no comparison from a monetary perspective IMO, again gaming only

I personally would stay away from i5s today. Looking at the 7600k, you get 66% of the cores and 33% of the threads that the R5 1600 would give you for the same money. You gain ~20-30% single thread performance. Sounds like a bad deal to me. Maybe justifiable for very special use cases like a dedicated emulator machine or something like that, but other than that you get robbed imho.
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i see that you have the r7 1700 and a gtx 970, do you play many games? if you were playing high/ultra detail games what would you consider to be your average fps?
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i see that you have the r7 1700 and a gtx 970, do you play many games? if you were playing high/ultra detail games what would you consider to be your average fps?

That varies a lot from game to game. In CS:GO it's ~300fps, in DOOM it's 120fps, in Playunknown's Battlegrounds it's ~75fps. Then there is big cities in MMOs with lot's people around where I get only ~40fps, like Guild Wars 2 or The Secret World (that's not average though, only when lots of players are around). All of these games, except DOOM, are CPU limited, but as you can see it depends on the games you play. Doesn't matter what CPU you have, you will not be able to stay above 80fps in all games at all times. There's always a badly optimised game that just won't run good. And then there's games like CS:GO, Overwatch, Dota and LoL that all will run above 80fps all the time no matter how bad your CPU is wink.gif
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hahaa i suppose i could of been more specific tongue.gif well atleast the r5 1600 should be quite a large improvement over my current well outdate fx6300
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Well, the improvement with the 1700 over my old 8350@4.7GHz was big smile.gif

I was thinking about getting 7700k too, but I just couldn't spend the same money for half the cores and threads. And if had to do the decision again today I would do it the same again, even with my 144Hz monitor. Actually I'd probably get the 1600 today, now that it's out. I just couldn't wait for R5s to release.

Obviously nobody can say for certain, but I think the chances are quite high that more cores = longer life for games. At least it was like this in the past. Of all my friends, we that got a Q6600 back in the day kept it a lot longer than the ones buying E8400, despite the E8400 having 25% more clock speed.
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