i ran across this, i guess it could be considered a leak. the page has to be translated, but i found it very interesting. looks like ryzen 9 line-up, http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5116196649
AMD's entire Ryzen 9 Threadripper CPU lineup has been leaked, featuring 16, 14, 12 and 10 core parts with clock speeds of up to 4.1GHz. The company's brand new enthusiast CPU lineup is set to launch this June and bring the company's outstanding Zen architecture to the high-end desktop.
The Ryzen 9 lineup, code named Threadripper, will be compatible with a modified version of the company's SP3 socket, code named SP3r2, which was originally designed for AMD's 32 core Naples server parts. The new high-end desktop platform is code named "Whitehaven" and brings support for quad channel DDR4 memory support and 44 PCIe lanes to hardware enthusiasts, content creators and developers.
There's already an Intel LGA socket with 3647 pins. Out of all the things, that's the least suspicious. When you have 64 lines of PCI-e 3, quad-channel memory and everything else you just need a massive amount of pins.
If you can only afford an R5 and not an R7, you probably won't be able to afford this. I'd expect X99 pricing tiers for it.
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There's already an Intel LGA socket with 3647 pins. Out of all the things, that's the least suspicious. When you have 64 lines of PCI-e 3, quad-channel memory and everything else you just need a massive amount of pins.
Rumor has it that this will be used not only for the dual-die/16-core Whitehaven chips but also the quad-die/32-core Naples chips, i.e. AMD is creating a single mainstream socket (AM4) and a single server/HEDT socket (this monstrosity). I'm not sure how that will work out though. What will probably happen is that Naples chips will be limited to quad-channel memory (one channel per die is probably the best option) for boards designed with Whitehaven in mind, and Whitehaven will be unable to use more than half the DIMM slots for boards designed with Naples in mind.
Seems like a poor choice on AMD's part really. They've had multiple server and consumer sockets in the past; C32, G34, FM2, and AM3+ all existed simultaneously and all supported then-new Piledriver CPUs. I get that they want to unify the sockets that serve similar purposes, but Naples and Whitehaven just seem too different to share a socket. Hopefully it's a crap rumor and we end up with something around Intel Socket R size.
Depends on how they arrange it. If the pins connected to the memory are on the edge of the socket then they should be no further from the DIMM slots than normal. That would leave power delivery and PCIe lanes (which are serial links, so the signal doesn't need to be synced) towards the middle.
I just want a board with a ryzen 9 that has 12 m.2s and a single 16x slot lol
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There's already an Intel LGA socket with 3647 pins. Out of all the things, that's the least suspicious. When you have 64 lines of PCI-e 3, quad-channel memory and everything else you just need a massive amount of pins.
At least AMD has the decency to make the entire lineup to have full pci-e lanes. Unlike Intel and their castration techniques and then asking $3000/ $1000 for the SKUs with 44 lanes.
Having 8 cores and only coming with a single 28 lanes sku is not a good sign at all. .
And while we are talking the "Child of Naples", Looking at the 2P Naples setup below , i reminisce as I missed the SR2 bandwagon to my regret. I wanted one back in the day but never pulled the trigger. Looking at below, I'm thinking "Do you really need two Kidneys?" I guess I could stop drinking...
Why though? You could put a bunch more M.2 cards on a PCIE adapter. Or have even better AIC in the slots. M.2 slots on a board take up a lot of space with how it's done on high end consumer boards. Plus you're giving up a lot of flexibility because more comes in a form that's slot-able rather than M.2; remember it's just a form factor, not the protocol (AHCI vs NVMe for example). My post from another thread:
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Also, I love the layout of that Naples board! Now this is where M.2 slots make sense to me, in terms of space taking. I would love 5, 6 or 7 PCIE slots and on the side M.2 slots since we don't need to worry about the PCH anymore. I dislike how M.2 has taking up PCIE slot space now on Ryzen and other consumer higher-end boards. I see the appeal but in the same space you could have two AIC NVMe cards that better in terms of throttling, power protection, etc or use adapter boards and run 4x m.2 drives for example (still NVMe).
M.2 makes sense in a lot of ways on smaller boards and server-like setups like this:
We don't know that yet. First off AMD could price this ridiculously which is possible as they're cash strapped and a business after all and/or Intel got some sense and price their X299 stuff reasonably.
Why though? You could put a bunch more M.2 cards on a PCIE adapter. Or have even better AIC in the slots. M.2 slots on a board take up a lot of space with how it's done on high end consumer boards. Plus you're giving up a lot of flexibility because more comes in a form that's slot-able rather than M.2; remember it's just a form factor, not the protocol (AHCI vs NVMe for example). My post from another thread:
We don't know that yet. First off AMD could price this ridiculously which is possible as they're cash strapped and a business after all and/or Intel got some sense and price their X299 stuff reasonably.
Well whatever AMD will price it will be lower than Intel, you can be 100% sure of that, because AMD is the one dying to be in the market not Intel, at least for now, unless AMD comes up with whooping 10% improvement over Intel KL in single thread IPC, I don't think AMD is going to price it ridiculously.
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