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[GCR ] Ford fires CEO Fields, in part, for lagging on electric cars

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It's all the buzz of the auto industry this morning: Ford has fired its CEO Mark Fields and will replace him with Jim Hackett, former CEO of Michigan furniture maker Steelcase.

Hackett presently oversees the Ford unit working on autonomous vehicles.

The company is expected to make the announcement this morning, according to numerous media reports from sources briefed on the move.

Articles confirming the expected firing came last night from both The New York Times and business magazine Forbes.

Fields, a 28-year Ford veteran, was tapped to lead Ford in 2014 by Alan Mullaly, who had been brought in from Boeing to turn around the company in 2006.
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1110567_ford-fires-ceo-fields-in-part-for-lagging-on-electric-cars

Not interested in EV? Get out Lol.
 
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As long as they keep improving the Mustang I'll be happy.
 
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Originally Posted by budgetgamer120 View Post

They are planning to make a mustang EV
Hybrid, not an EV.

It will likely replace the current Ecoboost four cylinder models in the next generation.

Quote: https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2017/01/03/ford-adding-electrified-f-150-mustang-transit-by-2020.html

  • Ford confirms seven of 13 new global electrified vehicles coming in the next five years, including F-150 Hybrid, Mustang Hybrid and Transit Custom plug-in hybrid
  • Ford to launch fully electric SUV with an estimated range of at least 300 miles and two new electrified police vehicles
 
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Originally Posted by DzillaXx View Post

Yeah wouldn't want Moms driving around in Men cars like the Camaro or Challenger.

We don't need the #1 Womans Muscle car getting outdated now.

Ford should stick to making Trucks
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LOL well if it's a woman's muscle car what is the camaro and challenger who model everything after the mustang
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PS Camaro is an awesome vehicle and I hope Chevy keeps doing what it's doing if only to keep the bar exchanging brands. lol @ Challenger.
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Originally Posted by CynicalUnicorn View Post

Maybe they'll introduce the ability to steer in the next model.
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Ohhh hello Caveman... The Mustang has been out handling the M3 since 2011. Welcome to the future... 2011 Base model outhandles the Evo 9+ on a track with a 118mph limiter
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Originally Posted by iTurn View Post

As long as they keep improving the Mustang I'll be happy.
Maybe they'll introduce the ability to steer in the next model.
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If I could buy any Mustang it would be the 2002 model with no rear differential.

Edit: looks like I'm just remembering things wrong and the mustang never actually had any option for a locked differential.
 
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PS Camaro is an awesome vehicle and I hope Chevy keeps doing what it's doing if only to keep the bar exchanging brands. lol @ Challenger.
Ohhh hello Caveman... The Mustang has been out handling the M3 since 2011. Welcome to the future... 2011 Base model outhandles the Evo 9+ on a track with a 118mph limiter
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Nice, it only took six years for the American performance car to compete with the Japanese family car.
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Nice, it only took six years for the American performance car to compete with the Japanese family car.
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Yep it's amazing! Did it with a solid rear axle too
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lol @ family car too, my Euro R is more comfy than an Evo 7+ and I wouldn't carry a family in my Euro R.
 
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Well I for one would like them to at least acknowledge what has been demonstrated by Tesla, Hyundai and Kia. I am constantly reminded why I don't want an EV or a compact or sub compact with other manufacturers. They are mostly all hideous. Tesla makes a decent looking EV car on the lower end and they sell like hotcakes. Hyundai and Kia are the fastest growing vehicle manufacturers in the low end and again their offerings just look better. Why can't Ford, Chevy....everyone else make decent looking EV and low end models????
 
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Fired for ignoring a highly lucrative future market? Sounds about right.

EVs are not for everyone, yet, but they are good for a lot of people. Actually, for the majority of commuters, as the average commute distance is well within the range of current EVs. Couple that with Germany looking to ban, or at least phase out, ICE cars by 2030, and inevitably other countries following suit, and it's a short sighted car company that ignores the electric option.

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Originally Posted by CynicalUnicorn View Post

Maybe they'll introduce the ability to steer in the next model.
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Dude, the original one could steer. The problem was stopping it turning...

Edit: Data for my statement above about commuting distances:
http://www.statisticbrain.com/commute-statistics/

Only 8% commute over 35 miles each way (70+ miles per day). That means that an EV would be suitable for at least 92% of commuters. So before you say "oh, but I commute {ridiculous distance} every day" as if it is somehow a good thing, remember that you are in the minority.
 
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Originally Posted by GingerJohn View Post

Edit: Data for my statement above about commuting distances:
http://www.statisticbrain.com/commute-statistics/

Only 8% commute over 35 miles each way (70+ miles per day). That means that an EV would be suitable for at least 92% of commuters. So before you say "oh, but I commute {ridiculous distance} every day" as if it is somehow a good thing, remember that you are in the minority.
And even if you are in that 8% minority, the majority of cars do use, ya know, explosives and pistons rather than explosives and circuitry. Tesla for a daily driver and, like, a van or hatchback for hauling or road trips would be fine, depending on the costs of course.
 
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Originally Posted by CynicalUnicorn View Post

Maybe they'll introduce the ability to steer in the next model.
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I heard they were going to install some new "pedestrian-safe" technology to help stop Mustangs from plowing into crowds.
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You should quit doing drugs.
Yeah he means the 1994 M3.
 
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Originally Posted by wanako View Post

I heard they were going to install some new "pedestrian-safe" technology to help stop Mustangs from plowing into crowds.
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Last I read, they were going to implement front bumper air bags that have sensors to allow deployment before impact.
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Originally Posted by Imouto View Post

You should quit doing drugs.
Problem is saying "Mustang" hardly covers which model he means. There are so many packages and trims it's hard to keep up. The 350R is ridiculous on the track.
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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

Yeah he means the 1994 M3.
Pony cars are not like the old days. Any remotely decently packaged mustang or camaro handles extremely well. Challenger is the the only straight line performance only model these days.

For example..

2015 BMW M4 vs. 2016 Chevrolet Camaro SS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D87tO7VUs2I
 
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Originally Posted by ILoveHighDPI View Post

If I could buy any Mustang it would be the 2002 model with no rear differential.

Way better on gravel and snow.
Huh? What do you mean no diff? Live rear axle...gonna need some form of differential.

I've driven the newer Mustangs and the new M3 and M4 (F30 and F82). Didn't get to take them on the track or anything, but I certainly preferred the M cars. I will admit I am biased though.
M cars have certainly become a lot more "bloated" over the years. I really like a lot of the modern features on the new cars, and they're certainly much faster than the inline six E36 and E46 generations. There just seems to be something magic about the naturally aspirated in line six M cars though. They never fail to put a smile on my face when one is in for service.
One of my favorite cars BMW has released since the E46 is the E82 135i. What a blast to drive and with a few simple mods your at ~400HP.
I would love to get my hands on a 135is, but they're so rare and expensive!

Not a big fan of servicing these EV's though. Theres a lot to learn: different tools required, different systems to learn to diagnose, different safety procedures etc...
Have to embrace the technology though because just about everybody is doing it nowadays.
 
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Originally Posted by ILoveHighDPI View Post

If I could buy any Mustang it would be the 2002 model with no rear differential.

Way better on gravel and snow.
Huh? What do you mean no diff? Live rear axle...gonna need some form of differential.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_(mechanical_device)
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Automobiles without differentials

Although most automobiles in the developed world use differentials there are a few that do not. Several different types exist:

Race cars and trucks in certain classes. Drag racing is done in a straight line (and often on a prepared surface), which obviates the need for a differential. A spool is used to make a solid connection between both drive wheels, which is simpler and less likely to break under very heavy acceleration. Racing on dirt or mud tracks also allows the use of spools, because the loose surface gives way while cornering. NASCAR mandates the use of spools in their cars, which does cause axle wind-up, and degrades handling in turns. Other forms of racing without differentials include tractor pulling, mud bogging, and other 4x4 motorsports where differential action is not needed.
 
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Originally Posted by ILoveHighDPI View Post

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Originally Posted by hanzy View Post

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Originally Posted by ILoveHighDPI View Post

If I could buy any Mustang it would be the 2002 model with no rear differential.

Way better on gravel and snow.
Huh? What do you mean no diff? Live rear axle...gonna need some form of differential.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_(mechanical_device)
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Automobiles without differentials

Although most automobiles in the developed world use differentials there are a few that do not. Several different types exist:

Race cars and trucks in certain classes. Drag racing is done in a straight line (and often on a prepared surface), which obviates the need for a differential. A spool is used to make a solid connection between both drive wheels, which is simpler and less likely to break under very heavy acceleration. Racing on dirt or mud tracks also allows the use of spools, because the loose surface gives way while cornering. NASCAR mandates the use of spools in their cars, which does cause axle wind-up, and degrades handling in turns. Other forms of racing without differentials include tractor pulling, mud bogging, and other 4x4 motorsports where differential action is not needed.
Methinks he was referring to a limited slip differential.
 
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