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[AT] Intel Announces Skylake-X Release Dates: 12-Core in August - 14, 16, and 18 Core in October

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• 4, 6, 8 and 10-core parts available for pre-order from June 19th
• 4, 6, 8 and 10-core parts shipping to consumers from June 26th
• 12-core parts expected to ship in August
• 14, 16 and 18-core parts expected to ship in October


The two quad-core parts are part of the Kaby Lake-X family, essentially using the mainstream Kaby Lake-S silicon but disabling the integrated graphics and expanding the voltage/frequency window and TDP limit to give extra frequency. As already demonstrated, extreme overclockers have hit over 7.5 GHz on these chips at a special Computex Intel event using Liquid Helium, with positive words coming out about 24/7 overclocking capabilities on air and water.

The other three parts are the Skylake-X family, with the 6, 8 and 10-core variants all coming from the same harvested low-core-count die. The big upswing for these processors is the rearranged cache arrangement, with Intel moving from 256KB of L2 cache on the previous generation to 1MB of L2 cache on Skylake-X (and changing the L3 cache from being a fully inclusive cache to being a non-inclusive cache). This significantly enhances software which is L2 cache size sensitive, although it remains to be seen how much of an effect it will have for consumers.

For the other parts, 12 core and up, Intel is staggering their launch to the extent that we do not even know many of the details. Intel's own documents list them all as TBD for frequency, power and DRAM support - the only certainties are core counts, pricing, and the fact that they will use the same socket as the above five processors. The August shipping date for the 12-core will be interesting, given that Dell has announced that pre-orders for its ThreadRipper Alienware desktops start on July 27th. The same announcement from Dell states 'and the Area 51 featuring Intel Core X-Series will arrive on August 22nd, and the product page states that this includes the 12-core option, as well as 6-10 cores. Whether the wording 'arrive' means pre-order or release we do not know, although the TR version explicitly states 'pre-order'. Ryan points out that this could just mean the 6-10 core options, as it doesn't explicitly state the 12 core and Intel hasn't made a firm date themselves yet.
Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11542/intel-announces-x299-skylakex-and-kaby-lakex-time-line-preorders-and-availability
 
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Now all Intel needs is to give their CPU's catchy names like the competition. ThreadSlayer? ThreadButcher? ThreadReaper?
 
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That 7820x is looking pretty sexy. If it can hit 4.5ghz+ on all cores ill def be picking one up. Would also be nice if it could do 4000mhz ddrd4.
 
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Every time I see that slide/table, I laugh and sigh at how cringe-worthy Intel's response to X399 is... All the missing details and unknown specification of server Xeon's being unlocked and rushed into a retail product stack with a new naming scheme... You can almost count the seconds it took for them to tack the additional SKUs to the previously planned line-up...

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I will have the 14 or 16 core, please. really though, October gives me time to get some more scratch up.
 
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It'll most likely be a binned 10-core or 8-core for me. Leaning heavily towards the 10-core right now but am going to wait on the reviews to see how the overclocking goes across both SKUs. 5ghz 24/7 stable will be the goal.

Very interested in seeing the binning as well as RAM performance. 4000mhz+ DDR4 with an 8 or 10-core and a bunch of NVMe is right in my wheel house.

It'll also either be an R6 Apex or Extreme as well... if the Apex had a 10G LAN there would be no need for the Extreme. Wish the Extreme had dual 8 pins as well. Why can't we have it all!?
 
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Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post

I really hope most people wait for Threadripper to hit the market before making their decision on this.
People looking for higher clocked 6-10 cores probably won't wait for it. For 12 or higher, most likely to wait and see.
 
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Originally Posted by Kpjoslee View Post

People looking for higher clocked 6-10 cores probably won't wait for it. For 12 or higher, most likely to wait and see.
usually single threaded programs that needed such high performance are games. Unless these people are getting dual TitanXp in SLI. There is no reason going X299 platform because it is better to use those money save to buy a better GPU.

for Productivity software, they scale well in multi-core, so high clock wont make any sense.
 
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usually single threaded programs that needed such high performance are games. Unless these people are getting dual TitanXp in SLI. There is no reason going X299 platform because it is better to use those money save to buy a better GPU.

for Productivity software, they scale well in multi-core, so high clock wont make any sense.
Well, You just said it. Those are most likely people who would jump on X299
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Originally Posted by BinaryDemon View Post

Now all Intel needs is to give their CPU's catchy names like the competition. ThreadSlayer? ThreadButcher? ThreadReaper?
AMD can have it's ThreadRipper. Just as long as intel renames their's to CoreSlayer
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Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post

I really hope most people wait for Threadripper to hit the market before making their decision on this.
Most people who drool over Intel CPU's above i5 don't ever get them because they can't afford to. I see some people in these topics right now who were basically swearing they were buying Kaby Lake or Broadwell day 1 and now they're talking about finally replacing their 2600K/3570K/5930K and so on.

For people who actually make use of HEDT platforms the way they're intended Intel simply doesn't compete right now, at least until October comes around and even with two additional cores at the high end i wouldn't expect anything more than the same current difference between the 6950X and the 1800X in both price(2x) and performance(1.1x).
 
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Originally Posted by Clocknut View Post

usually single threaded programs that needed such high performance are games. Unless these people are getting dual TitanXp in SLI. There is no reason going X299 platform because it is better to use those money save to buy a better GPU.

for Productivity software, they scale well in multi-core, so high clock wont make any sense.
Well, You just said it. Those are most likely people who would jump on X299
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Why? So you can downgrade from X99 with half the bandwidth to the GPU's? even if the Hexa core OC's the best, you won't get anything that you can't get fro a Z270 right now....plus Coffee Lake mainstream will be 6 cores shortly after this launch. They really made getting the 6 and 8 core CPU's pointless. They'll still be slower than a 7700K in games and don't bring the throughput advantage that the platform is supposed to deliver.
 
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Originally Posted by BinaryDemon View Post

Now all Intel needs is to give their CPU's catchy names like the competition. ThreadSlayer? ThreadButcher? ThreadReaper?
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no no no it's coreripper
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Originally Posted by BinaryDemon View Post

Now all Intel needs is to give their CPU's catchy names like the competition. ThreadSlayer? ThreadButcher? ThreadReaper?
AMD can have it's ThreadRipper. Just as long as intel renames their's to CoreSlayer
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WalletSlayer

CashRipper

AccountSlayer

BuyersRemorseRipper
 
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My only concern about threadripper is bugs or waiting for certain software to work. Right now vmware still doesn't work properly with ryzen. That is the only reason I'd buy intel over amd this round on hedt. I'm going to spend about 1500 on a cpu so the 18 core from intel is out of the question. Also reading the 5ghz on an aio thread has me worried about how much heat those higher chips are going to produce.
 
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I haven't read up on processors since I did the research before buying my 3570k but, I have to ask that old question:

Are games really going to be making use of an 8-10-12-18 core processor? Can they even do it? Are they making games these days to just take full advantages of however many cores they detect? So if someone bought that crazy 18 core processor, are they going to have a better experience playing a game that can use that many cores? Or would they have been just as well off buying the processor with 10 cores less?

Same question for the X299 pci bandwitdth. Are they going to be making cards soon, that will saturate that bus? Is it even a concern?
 
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Originally Posted by PhotonFanatic View Post

I haven't read up on processors since I did the research before buying my 3570k but, I have to ask that old question:

Are games really going to be making use of an 8-10-12-18 core processor? Can they even do it? Are they making games these days to just take full advantages of however many cores they detect? So if someone bought that crazy 18 core processor, are they going to have a better experience playing a game that can use that many cores? Or would they have been just as well off buying the processor with 10 cores less?

Same question for the X299 pci bandwitdth. Are they going to be making cards soon, that will saturate that bus? Is it even a concern?
Generally speaking, no. With current games, not much more than 8 threads are used in most cases. Which is why a 7700k or 7740X would be considered the best gaming processor. At most maybe a 7800X, and 7820X as the sweet spot. Anything above that is not really going to be used by games. There are some instances where there are games that utilize over 8 threads:

AC: Syndicate



Crysis 3



F1 2015



Dragon Age Inquisition



There's also Metro Last Light and a few others. Now while this is the scenario today, what the future holds is uncertain because of the fact that there are now accessible high-core count parts for good prices thanks to Ryzen. Meaning, essentially, this should change the playing field over the next few years regarding programmers coding for better thread and core utilization in games and other programs. Previously, these high-core count parts were out of reach for most consumers leaving programmers unwilling to waste their time putting in extra efforts into coding when the average user was still on a 4-core CPU. However now with X299, X399, and X370 these CPUs are more affordable. Giving programmers more incentive to start coding for better core and thread optimization. How quickly this will happen is obviously unknown, but it will change for certain.

As far as Bus Bandwidth goes, it is generally fluff, there is really no difference between x8/x8 vs x16/x16 for the most part. Performance differences are minimal at best, in the grand majority of scenarios:















 
#23 ·
okay so now we now that the 10 cores or less parts are unsoldered and runs hot like hell

but what about the 12 cores and above? do u think intel will solder those ones? surly those with more cores will run hotter!
 
#25 ·
I see that Intel is offering its Performance Tuning protection plan for its new I9 cips. I would definitely opt for this since they run hotter. Costs $79 for the 7900 but it's a $999 chip so that gives you a safety net.

I have purchased this plan for my 5960x and 6700k.
 
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