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Yeah, I have to say that I still vastly prefer Windows 7 to 10... especially the much more rational (IMO) security and control architecture.

That being said, there's no stopping progress and the "OS as a rental commodity" model is already too well established (and too massively profitable) to turn back now - so I've moved over 90%.

I lament the passing of the "good old days" before everything was monetized and data-mined for profit. The times when innovation drove technology at least as much as marketing. And when buying something actually meant owning that thing to do with as you pleased...

If you cut basically everything out of it, and disable all updates and telemetry - and then manually patch only security updates... Windows 10 isn't quite as irritating as it is in its 'raw' form. I'm hopeful that, given a few more cycles, running a KVM will provide nearly perfect performance scaling and then I can safely switch to Linux only on bare metal and keep Windows in a VM where it belongs.

Or course, I might as well hope for smartphones, celebrities, all social media and hybrid vehicles (or at least their evangelists) to die horribly in the near future as well.. but that just isn't gonna happen. redface.gif

@spinFX - I think it's what you know more than what it can do that's the problem. I'm in the same boat - I can't find anything that PS does 'way better' than Gimp... but for some reason it just seems like everything takes me 10X as long to get the results I'm looking for. However, I've been using PS since the 90's so it's almost muscle-memory at this point. Felt the same way with DW as an IDE actually - I can do way more with Eclipse, but it seems to bury the things I use most often 3-4 menus deep - or have plug-in conflicts that are so difficult to troubleshoot that it's easier to just work around them.

My problem is probably just being old though. biggrin.gif
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I'm running 7 because it's there. $20 Dell with WIN7 COA.
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I've tried to use Gimp a few times, but always turn back to Photoshop, just can't get a good workflow on that program. Something about it just seems counter-intuitive. Any tips? tongue.gif
I've switched from using Photoshop to Affinity Photo. You don't have to pay a monthly fee and it has all the same features as Photoshop as well as a lot of very good video tutorials. Only downside is that it is not free but then not much else is these days. I think you can still download a trial version.
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Just bought me some games for Win7 (mostly kids games like older Lego-games).
But one of them was the old flight simulator Apache Longbow a game I played on a Win95 200MHz Cyrix GX computer back in the late 90s.

Yes! I kept using Win95 long into 2003, on the very Cyrix GX computer, and then that was the family only comp, also cellphones back then was just phones.
Never heard Microsoft Fanboys arguing how faulty one was using an old computer and and an old OS back in then.

This Windows (get the latest Win version... Or else.) Fanboy-ism is to me something new, and especially as Microsoft have done 2 very "extreme" versions in a row (Win8 and Win10) that for sure won't fit the bill for everyone.
It's astonish that Microsoft marketing and fanboys even think that Win10 have what it takes to be a mainstream OS.

I don't count me as a Win7 user, even if Win7 are dual booting on 2 of the family's 3 comps (the desktops), as I since 2015 moved over to Linux for everything but gaming.

Please call me a Linux user that still play games on Win7. Not only have Linux replaced Windows for "everything else home computing", Android tablets and smart phones are replacing the PC-computers in our home.
Around 2014 we had some 6 computers (In different ready stages+components for 1 or 2 more) but seeing nothing from the software or hardware PC-industry that can compete with tablets and smart phones for future home computing.
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Lodbroke, the Linux with Windows back up approach is what I'll eventually end up doing down the road. Would you have any guides or suggestions of how I would go about that? I'm not looking to derail the thread, just looking for a link to get started finding info.
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@AcEsSalvation
I choose the expensive way.
Having Win7 on one SSD and a second SSD for Linux.
As both Win7 and Linux can be corrupted by the other when having them on same disk, but it's working perfectly having them on same disk but one will need to fine tune the size of the partitions of every before/under installing.

Generally I download Linux Distro's from https://distrowatch.com/ and using https://unetbootin.github.io/
Unetbootin makes bootable USB memory sticks or SD memory cards (in a USB-card reader) from CD/DVD images, 1 2GB will do but some distro's need up to 4GB USB memory.
Prefer also to install from Live distros as it nice to test what one gets before installing.
Burning the downloaded distro image to a CD/DVD works fine too.

I prefer Linux Mint and Ubuntu studio, but testing other from time to time but Mint and Ubuntu are hard to fail with.


Going from scratch I disconnect all disk except for the SSD which i install Win7, just so Windows not writing files all over everything.
After having Win7 working (registered, all drivers installed).
I making sure the Win7 disk are found by Linux.

Booting from a Card reader or USB memory needs one to either having as a higher priority boot disk than a HDD or start the computers boot menu (F8 on one of the comps and F12 on the other), hitting the designated key some times, when the Bios flash shows will start the boot menu.
Some comps/motherboards will show you which key to stroke during Bios Flash, but not all of them.

Using different disks also means no fiddling with partitions (unless one wants several distro's on the Linux disk). Just make sure that boot disk for Linux are the one that Linux are installed on.

Advantage with one disk for Win7 and one for (one or more) linux distro are:
If making sure the Linux boot files areon the Linux disk, one can remove either disk without corrupting the other one.
In Bios u can choose the Win or Linux dist as "auto" booting disk, if Windows disk are the main you will need to start Boot menu to get to Linux (depends on comp F8 or F2 are popular among makers).'
If choosing the Linux disk as main boot disk u will get a choice of those Linux distro's installed or Windows to boot up.

Only set back I have are that the Windows clock always get the time wrong by one hour restarting Win7 after a session with Linux.

Hope you got some useful input AcEsSalvation.


Edit the text as I'm no author of any kind
Edited by Lodbroke - 1/14/18 at 2:54am
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Only set back I have are that the Windows clock always get the time wrong by one hour after restarting Win7 after a session with Linux.

Hope you got some useful input AcEsSalvation.


Edit the text as I'm no author of any kind

Hi, @Lodbroke
Found a fix for the dual boot clock borking and it's a Linux thing of course smile.gif
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=190817&start=0&hilit=ThrashZone
     
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Only set back I have are that the Windows clock always get the time wrong by one hour after restarting Win7 after a session with Linux.

Hope you got some useful input AcEsSalvation.


Edit the text as I'm no author of any kind

Hi, @Lodbroke
Found a fix for the dual boot clock borking and it's a Linux thing of course smile.gif
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=190817&start=0&hilit=ThrashZone
It seems that line is not in rcS anymore in at least in Ubuntu 16.04

Instead you can open a terminal and enter:
Code:
timedatectl set-local-rtc 1

If that doesn't work,
Code:
sudo timedatectl set-local-rtc 1
(there is conflicting info whether it needs sudo to change the time zone)
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I've found with the latest (or almost latest) hardware I can actually run games well in a Windows 7 VM running in vmware workstation. Sure wouldn't work for any 3D intensive FPS games, but for older ones (I still play GuildWars from time to time for example) it's as fast as it was on the original machine I used back in 2011.

With consistent improvements in KVM solutions and some configuration work... I expect in the next year or two to see VM performance reach 85-90% of bare metal installs... and with fast enough hardware - that will be plenty for anything that won't run natively in Linux.

To be fair, my system is top 5% probably speed wise - so obviously it's not what you'd call a 'budget friendly' solution but it's super convenient to be able to switch back and forth without even a reboot! Once someone builds a good VM container for DirectX on Linux, I think it's game over (pun intended) for Microsoft. biggrin.gif

All that being said, I actually don't mind Windows 10 as far as an OS - it's not bad at all to use... I just have huge problems with the new business model that Microsoft has employed. The forced obsolescence combined with their "everything yours is actually ours" attitude toward privacy, security, and monetization of digital assets makes me want nothing to do with them at all. Unfortunately, work is almost all Windows based and likely will be for years to come - so there's only so much I can do on that front.
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I agree about Windows 10. No one in their right mind would agree to the EULA provisions about privacy and data owmership. I can only assume that because it's so long no one actually reads it. About 10 pages in was enough for me to decide not to use it. Not even for free.
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Lodbroke, the Linux with Windows back up approach is what I'll eventually end up doing down the road. Would you have any guides or suggestions of how I would go about that? I'm not looking to derail the thread, just looking for a link to get started finding info.
One way to get started is with a live DVD from one of the many Linux type magazines. You can run Linux from the DVD drive and make no changes to your computer. It's good to have one of these around anyway. It will bypass the worst malware infections, and let you look in your boot drive from outside the OS to find files that don't belong there. I did a dual boot once with XP and during a Linux update clicked the wrong option and formatted away my XP partition. I thought I was installing an update for the OS and actually installed a new primary OS. So it helps to spend some time learning the Linux lingo. It will boot slowly but Linux can usually fit in the system RAM so once loaded and a few drivers for printer estc. added it actually runs OK.
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