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Between today and january 2020 Microsoft will be needed to come up with something new and better selling than Win10.
Can't think something like a renamed Win10 with new GUI will be enough. That would be much too little too late if Microsoft wants to be a top dog in OSes.

In June 2017, Win7 had 49% of the desktop market, in just a day we will see how big Win7 user base is/was july 2017 is compared to Win10.
Since the spring the Win7 have been increased it market share, while Win10 have stagnated and even shrunk.

http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0
Yes there are still Win7 users around smile.gif

I hate to break it to you, but it isn't likely. Microsoft is copying the MacOS format. You stick with 10 forever, and then roll out upgrade revisions with goofy names. Like cats and crap. You change it just enough to call it a revision to charge some $$. Win10 is here to stay ....unfortunately for everyone.

Unfortunately for everyone who sticks with windows.
     
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Just finished the long, arduous process of getting Windows 7 on my new build after running Win10 for several months... whew!

It's not easy with a 7700K, Z270 and dual NVMe drives... but it's all there and working great! Then I hit the recent update patches and BAM! - there it was - conclusive proof that I will never run another Microsoft OS again (outside of a VM at least):


Sure, I can (and will) uninstall KB4012218 as well as all other non-essential patches and 'quality updates' - after all they're not adding anything useful to the OS at this point... unless you consider spam and spyware 'useful' that is. However, the behavior they've undertaken simply reinforces my desire to restrict Windows 10 and all subsequent 'releases' to a gaming only machine which never does anything else (and if SteamOS does a decent job... then not even on that).

In the time I ran Win10, I was constantly confronted with what I consider inappropriate or unacceptable behavior for an OS (though both appropriate and commonplace for malware). I had privacy and system settings constantly reset to whatever Microsoft wanted - regardless of what I had set them to before. I would disable services (which was difficult due to dynamic renaming of them in the registry... again, just like malware) only to find them re-enabled after the next update. In fact after I disabled the services for syncing devices, apps and storage... that alone was enough to cause Windows Update to re-install the entire Creators Update again... along with re-enabling all telemetry, One Drive, etc.

Despite the fact that it has nothing to do with actual performance, nor privacy in any way... part of my desire to run Win7 on this hardware is to finally see this after so many years of always having one of the values be a couple points shy no matter what I did.


And yes, it plays Crysis just fine. tongue.gif
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And yes, it plays Crysis just fine. tongue.gif

Spoilsport. mad.gifbiggrin.gif

Ah yes, WEI, the one part of windows that really made me ask why this is a big deal for some people. smile.gif

So how is the system doing?

Any weird behavior being an unsupported hardware? rolleyes.gif

Why not install Windows 7 with SP1 and turn off updates afterward? That's what I did with mine and I have not issues so far for the last three years. tongue.gif
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Spoilsport. mad.gifbiggrin.gif

Ah yes, WEI, the one part of windows that really made me ask why this is a big deal for some people. smile.gif

So how is the system doing?

Any weird behavior being an unsupported hardware? rolleyes.gif

Why not install Windows 7 with SP1 and turn off updates afterward? That's what I did with mine and I have not issues so far for the last three years. tongue.gif

Absolutely great as far as performance... never been snappier - even in comparison to Win10 actually. Obviously, as time goes on, there will be more and more software and devices which will not play well (or at least not plug and play well wink.gif ) but that's to be expected. I have yet to really spend much time trying out the more esoteric possibilities (i.e. vt-d for VMs, 64bit GPU resource adressing, etc.) but for 'regular stuff' like games, dev tools, office, etc. naturally there's nothing amiss at all. In fact, everything loads from scratch as if I had it minimized and just restored it.

I just went ahead and installed Ubuntu 17.04 on the other NVMe drive and have a dual-boot setup at the moment for testing. Based on that and the passthrough performance using VMware Workstation 12 to a Win7 guest... I'd have to say the requirements are less of a deal for me than they were 2 days ago actually. I only allocated 2 cores to the VM - but still got all 7.9's in WEI in everything else (got a 7.4 in CPU). I'm doing updates in there to see if what I fear is true... as when I check the CPU info in properties... it's showing my actual CPU - so running in a VM is definitely still gonna let MS take away the updates... how crap is that?!? mad.gif Still it's pretty cool (and a little bit weird) to hear my fans and pump speed up and a little coil whine coming from my GPU based on what's happening in a VM!

All of my hardware in the 'native' Win7 is supported (obviously it is in the VM as well, but that's not the real hardware so that's to be expected). I had to sideload USB3 drivers into my install.wim file on my install media for Win7 and then I just over-wrote the Win7 boot.wim and setup.exe with the ones from the Win10 iso. That took care of the NVMe issues and allows for install on my MB (as it doesn't have any USB2.0 ports at all). All other drivers worked great as normal post-install.

They're gonna have to come up with something really compelling for me to upgrade past this generation of hardware so I'm good on that front. Other than with GPUs, I almost never update drivers to newer versions unless there is a serious problem - since many of the hardware companies (like Razer, Corsair, etc.) are doing the same spyware nonsense that MS and Apple do now. "Want to use your programmable buttons? Well, you'll have to join our club and fill out a questionnaire first... and then we'll track what software you use and store that data it in the cloud for you... neat huh?!" GRRR. mad.gif
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Just wondering if anyone still using windows 7

Still using Windows 7 yes. It works great!
I have no smartphone but if i had i still would not want my PC to look like a smartphone, so what would i need W10 for?
Using Adobe CS 6 and not interested to upgrade. Lightroom 5.7 no need to upgrade. Games today none worth it to want DX12.
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7 Still works pretty well. I only have my music production PC that is still running it however. All my other gaming stuff is 10.
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Just finished the long, arduous process of getting Windows 7 on my new build after running Win10 for several months... whew!

It's not easy with a 7700K, Z270 and dual NVMe drives... but it's all there and working great! Then I hit the recent update patches and BAM! - there it was - conclusive proof that I will never run another Microsoft OS again (outside of a VM at least):


Sure, I can (and will) uninstall KB4012218 as well as all other non-essential patches and 'quality updates' - after all they're not adding anything useful to the OS at this point... unless you consider spam and spyware 'useful' that is. However, the behavior they've undertaken simply reinforces my desire to restrict Windows 10 and all subsequent 'releases' to a gaming only machine which never does anything else (and if SteamOS does a decent job... then not even on that).

In the time I ran Win10, I was constantly confronted with what I consider inappropriate or unacceptable behavior for an OS (though both appropriate and commonplace for malware). I had privacy and system settings constantly reset to whatever Microsoft wanted - regardless of what I had set them to before. I would disable services (which was difficult due to dynamic renaming of them in the registry... again, just like malware) only to find them re-enabled after the next update. In fact after I disabled the services for syncing devices, apps and storage... that alone was enough to cause Windows Update to re-install the entire Creators Update again... along with re-enabling all telemetry, One Drive, etc.

Despite the fact that it has nothing to do with actual performance, nor privacy in any way... part of my desire to run Win7 on this hardware is to finally see this after so many years of always having one of the values be a couple points shy no matter what I did.


And yes, it plays Crysis just fine. tongue.gif


I had to install a small piece of software called Wufuc which allowed you to update and install updates for win7. This is on a new ryzen build.
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I had to install a small piece of software called Wufuc which allowed you to update and install updates for win7. This is on a new ryzen build.

Yep it definitely makes things easier. That's what I did on my 'casual' desktop. For my work W7 install I wanted to avoid using any 3rd party tools/software as that's a security hole IMO. wink.gif
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Have been on Win7 for 8 years now. But, my new Ryzen build is going to be W10 64-bit pro.
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ryzen 1600 on a gigabyte gaming 5 (no hardware driver issues whatsoever) and I'm using Wufuc to get all the window updates...BUT i must say I'm not pleased with my csgo performance and I'm hearing a LOT of different things regarding what power plan settings and CPU parkings I should use and I hear windows 10 at least got this part right now.
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