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Originally Posted by tripleflip18 View Post

i got L719C500

Well, cheers biggrin.gif Since you said your chip cant do 4,4 at 1,1V, i hope same batch number does not mean same thermal / OC properties biggrin.gif Then again, maybe it will turn out the way i would wish the exact opposite, if my chip turns out to be dud.

Anyway, the more i have it lying here in the box, the more i start considering buying better AiO and sell my current one (Corsair H105) alongside the current CPU and mobo - which is what i am going to do, once i do the hardware swap. Since apparently 240mm AiOs like H105 are insufficient to keep up with Skylake-X once OCed, i thought about 360mm AiO - cause 280mm probably would not make much difference when compared against my current setup and custom loop is out of question because costs, maintenance and space inside case issues.....

The question is, will 360mm AiO be significant upgrade over my 240mm one, i mean the kind of upgrade, which in case of my targeted 4,4GHz OC would keep CPU temps from getting into high 80s/90s, which i suppose could happen now? Or its not going to help much either way and custom is the only solution?

Additionally, if i was about to get one, which one would you recommend? I was looking at Fractal Design Celsius 36 and AlphaCool Eisbear 360mm? These are available over here, at local e-shop i got the CPU from - for acceptable price, no more than 150 EUROs. I would be willing to pay that. Are there any good though? Or is there something better, ideally in the same price-bracket?
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If anyone is interested in the craziest deal ive ever seen on newegg, they are offering a 7800x with a MSI SLI plus motherboard for 499 bucks. I almost want to do it, but im still kinda holding out for coffee lake.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3615536
Would get nicer motherboard with the 7800x though.
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Originally Posted by ottoore View Post

Electrical resistivity depends on temperature.
meaning, in theory i should be able to lower voltage?
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Originally Posted by tripleflip18 View Post

meaning, in theory i should be able to lower voltage?
yes... how much "depends", but generally speaking hotter processors require more voltage for stability.
Edited by cekim - 10/21/17 at 3:06pm
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meaning, in theory i should be able to lower voltage?
To reach the same ampere at higher resistance you'd need higher voltage and maybe lower voltage is what you can gain from lower temperatures regardless (the other alternative I guess would be if higher temperature lead to more leakage of electricity or some disturbance or maybe some capacitive or inductive effect) is that the chip can use less power (which also will make it run even cooler..)
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Well, except for the outrageous costs, I can say that DHL is crazy fast...
Shipment picked up on 19th Oct in Houston, TX
Arrived at Delivery Facility in AMSTERDAM - NETHERLANDS, THE on 21st of Oct, what the?! drool.gif

So the upcoming week I can delid my 7920X thumb.gif In the meantime smashing some 3dmarks: https://i.imgur.com/k4F77dz.png
Edited by Martin778 - 10/21/17 at 12:13pm
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Well, except for the outrageous costs, I can say that DHL is crazy fast...
Shipment picked up on 19th Oct in Houston, TX
Arrived at Delivery Facility in AMSTERDAM - NETHERLANDS, THE on 21st of Oct, what the?! drool.gif

So the upcoming week I can delid my 7920X thumb.gif In the meantime smashing some 3dmarks: https://i.imgur.com/k4F77dz.png

Yeah, DHL from UK to the US is pretty damn fast. Not quite as expensive as it was for you, but I was impressed with how quickly things moved across the big pond. biggrin.gif

Give some thought to running the new Time Spy Extreme as it's been optimized for HCC chips like yours. Firestrike seems to favor moderate core count with high clock speeds.

Good luck man and looking forward to your post delid results! thumb.gif
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Does anyone know what IA: Max Turbo Limit and IA: Non-Turbo (P1) stand for?

I just noticed these flagged in HWiNFO64... I never had any of these flags with my 7700k.

Could this be causing my clocks to drop to 4.438 - 4.748 when I'm benching @ 4.8 with a -3 avx off set? I'm not hitting any temp limits but maybe there's a problem with my BIOS settings. I raised he current to 200%, LLC 6 and 1.81 vccin.

I can clear the codes by changing the windows power settings to performance (from balanced). So maybe its not important...
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Does anyone know what IA: Max Turbo Limit and IA: Non-Turbo (P1) stand for?

I just noticed these flagged in HWiNFO64... I never had any of these flags with my 7700k.

Could this be causing my clocks to drop to 4.438 - 4.748 when I'm benching @ 4.8 with a -3 avx off set? I'm not hitting any temp limits but maybe there's a problem with my BIOS settings. I raised he current to 200%, LLC 6 and 1.81 vccin.

I can clear the codes by changing the windows power settings to performance (from balanced). So maybe its not important...

You have a AVX offset, that's normal, it's not going to run at 4.8Ghz
IA: Max Turbo Limit was also on the z170 and z270 platform, it's there on my wife's 7700k/Hero machine with a big YES when she hits the turbo max wink.gif
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Delidding shenanigans (still using H110i AIO push/pull):
- pigeon poop (poorly applied) after initial delid
- all clean
- first pass (oops too much! NOOB!)
- glad I checked (see above - beware of the blob!
- base-line 3.8GHz all-core RB for 15m (set to 3.8 because I was comparing to 2x2696v3 @ 3.8)
- delid temps - same test - no system changes 3.8Ghz all-core RB for 15m)








Edited by cekim - 10/21/17 at 10:57pm
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