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Upgrading from 2500k, not sure what to do.

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#1 ·
hi

i've decided its time to upgrade my pc but i'm not 100% sure in which direction to go.

as it is now i see 3 options.

1. get 7700k / 1600
2. wait for 6c/12t coffee lake and pray it'll at least match the single core performance of 7700k, while having the benefit of extra cores and threads
3. buy a used 3770k on the cheap, although i'm not sure if that makes sense really ?

i'm no longer crazy about upgrading so whatever i'll go with is going to last me 4+ years.

this would be used purely for gaming, i'm playing at 144hz/1440p
 
#2 ·
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Originally Posted by elzhi View Post

hi

i've decided its time to upgrade my pc but i'm not 100% sure in which direction to go.

as it is now i see 3 options.

1. get 7700k / 1600
2. wait for 6c/12t coffee lake and pray it'll at least match the single core performance of 7700k, while having the benefit of extra cores and threads
3. buy a used 3770k on the cheap, although i'm not sure if that makes sense really ?

i'm no longer crazy about upgrading so whatever i'll go with is going to last me 4+ years.

this would be used purely for gaming, i'm playing at 144hz/1440p
Man. Go for the 7700K ...

I've gamed at 1440p for about 3 years (?). I rode a 2700K at 5ghz with dual GTX980's in SLI for the longest and just six months ago built a new 6700K machine because I wanted to go to a single card application (GTX 1080 ti) and was worried that I might be hamstringing the 1080 ti with the older but still formidable, 5ghz 2700K.

Long story short? Man, let me tell you ... upgrading to the 6700K .. with much faster DDR4 memory ... a very decent motherboard (Asus Sabertooth) ... was an EXTREMELY noticeable upgrade. No placebo here ... 30+ FPS in everything vs the 2700K build ... and so damn smooth.

Really can't say it enough ... go for the 7700K (or hell, wait for the newer CPU's) but as much as you love your 2500K? Go ahead and upgrade .. chose your CPU and make sure you don't skimp on the power supply, the RAM or the motherboard ...

EDIT: and BTW ... I buy and build towards something that will last 3+ years as well; I am not an upgrade junkie. Sound, fast and stable ... for a long time ...

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Best of luck mate!

Joel
 
#3 ·
thanks for you input, i was tempted to upgrade for past 2 months, but my rig was doing ok at 1440p 60Hz.]

i've upgraded my monitor since and my upgrade plans have accelerated
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as much as i loved the good old 2500k it chokes in BF1 (i'm sure 1333hz ram doesn't help either) , whether its ultra settings, or everything on low, i've even tried dropping to lower res just for fun but still it couldn't hit a stable 60FPS
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#4 ·
7700K or R5 1600 (X optional), no other choice is truly viable for a modern gamer.

It depends how things go in future which is the best choice. With games going increasingly multi-threaded, it's entirely likely the lower IPC speed of the AMD will end up matching the Intel option just through more cores and threads. But that's your own debate to have.
 
#5 ·
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Originally Posted by elzhi View Post

hi

i've decided its time to upgrade my pc but i'm not 100% sure in which direction to go.

as it is now i see 3 options.

1. get 7700k / 1600
2. wait for 6c/12t coffee lake and pray it'll at least match the single core performance of 7700k, while having the benefit of extra cores and threads
3. buy a used 3770k on the cheap, although i'm not sure if that makes sense really ?

i'm no longer crazy about upgrading so whatever i'll go with is going to last me 4+ years.

this would be used purely for gaming, i'm playing at 144hz/1440p
Have you OC'd the 2500k?

Also what about R7 1700X? It should last you 4+ years with it's 8 cores and 16 threads.

In my opinion, the 7700k is a lot of dough for maybe 50% better performance than your 2500k.
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#6 ·
z77 + 3770k and an AIO would do nicely for cheap.. You'd get PCIE 3.0, 8x + 8x for any dual GPU needs. DDR3 is still really cheap and easy to find a decent 16GB kit.

*if youre gaming at 1440 I would put more into your GPU than the rest of the system.. Im gaming just fine at 1440 using a SB-6core and GTX770 still.
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#7 ·
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Originally Posted by allikat View Post

7700K or R5 1600 (X optional), no other choice is truly viable for a modern gamer.

It depends how things go in future which is the best choice. With games going increasingly multi-threaded, it's entirely likely the lower IPC speed of the AMD will end up matching the Intel option just through more cores and threads. But that's your own debate to have.
i've had that debate in my head many times, believe me.
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Originally Posted by Armand Hammer View Post

Have you OC'd the 2500k?

Also what about R7 1700X? It should last you 4+ years with it's 8 cores and 16 threads.

In my opinion, the 7700k is a lot of dough for maybe 50% better performance than your 2500k.
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i 've had it running at stock. i actually tried OC today and got it running at 4.3 Ghz, seemed to BSOD at higher freq with 1.35V, is it safe to push it the voltage higher ?

btw BF1 seems to run little better, but i still get moments where it slows down although it doesn't happen as often, max fps seem higher too.

i haven't thought about 1700x tbh, i'll look into it, btw does it OC better than the regular 1700 ?
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Originally Posted by CL3P20 View Post

z77 + 3770k and an AIO would do nicely for cheap.. You'd get PCIE 3.0, 8x + 8x for any dual GPU needs. DDR3 is still really cheap and easy to find a decent 16GB kit.

*if youre gaming at 1440 I would put more into your GPU than the rest of the system.. Im gaming just fine at 1440 using a SB-6core and GTX770 still.
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if i'm able to find a good deal i'll definitely consider, otherwise i'd rather buy some new shiny hardware, as for the gpu the 1070 seems to do ok for now at least, although i'll definitely want to upgrade at some point as well.
 
#8 ·
Cheapest route is to get an i7 3770k or even a 2700k. You'll get higher minimums. But, if building from scratch, the 1700 seems a good step up at a reasonable cost. I saw a yt blind test where the ryzen gave the gamers somewhat smoother gameplay for them. Most if not all ryzen mb have igpu. Checkout their pics in newegg or something.
 
#9 ·
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Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post

Cheapest route is to get an i7 3770k or even a 2700k. You'll get higher minimums. But, if building from scratch, the 1700 seems a good step up at a reasonable cost. I saw a yt blind test where the ryzen gave the gamers somewhat smoother gameplay for them. Most if not all ryzen mb have igpu. Checkout their pics in newegg or something.
Bad move on the cpu only upgrade. Parts are getting hard to get outside CPUs. A board that dies just can't be replaced new any more. It' why my 2600k rig was replaced. Don't throw money at the old rig now, replace it. Did you wonder why so many used 2500s and 2600s are on ebay? Because they're old, and it's a pain in the butt to get a good board for them now.

Many Ryzen MB have connectors for graphics outputs, but it's not for the Ryzen chips. Ryzen chips and boards don't have an iGPU, the forthcoming APUs will. Those connectors are useless with a Ryzen chip, just like half the features on an X299 board if you put a Kaby Lake chip on it...
 
#10 ·
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Originally Posted by allikat View Post

Bad move on the cpu only upgrade. Parts are getting hard to get outside CPUs. A board that dies just can't be replaced new any more. It' why my 2600k rig was replaced. Don't throw money at the old rig now, replace it. Did you wonder why so many used 2500s and 2600s are on ebay? Because they're old, and it's a pain in the butt to get a good board for them now.

Many Ryzen MB have connectors for graphics outputs, but it's not for the Ryzen chips. Ryzen chips and boards don't have an iGPU, the forthcoming APUs will. Those connectors are useless with a Ryzen chip, just like half the features on an X299 board if you put a Kaby Lake chip on it...
I keep forgetting how old Sandy is. My system prolly has another 2 or so years.
 
#11 ·
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Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post

I keep forgetting how old Sandy is. My system prolly has another 2 or so years.
Yeah, it's a good chip, I'd still be using mine if good boards were still available new. My old 2600k is on its third board. Asrock Z68 died, MSI z77 got socket damage because fumble fingers here dropped the chip into it corner first... and it's sitting on a Gigabyte z68 board now. But I couldn't get anything new with 4 memory slots. Only H61 boards were still available new. Just couldn't get the parts to keep the old beast running. Performance wise it's still close enough to up there to be worth it... if only there were a stock of good boards still.
 
#13 ·
I would wait for threadripper launch at the end of the month to make a decision

Intel would have to react to it so if it's hugely better then the used market will react or get a ryzen something
 
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