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Well I bit the bullet on a RX VEGA 64 Limited Edition yesterday. Now waiting eagerly for delivery.

Seemed to me the best deal I may see this side of Christmas. £515 delivered, ~£11 cashback, got Prey and Wolfenstein II with it (worth ~£40 in my estimates, so card is net ~£465 IMO).

The decision was concreted after having experienced the MSI GTX 1080 EK X. I missed the lack of variable refresh rate greatly, wasn't inclined to get into hassle of swapping my MG279Q for similar G-Sync monitor. Also missed some of the features of AMD driver panel which didn't have equivalents in nVidia drivers.

I was also lucky in that the Fury X sold at no loss. The MSI GTX 1080 EK X had a missing screw on WB so got a discount, I was able to sell it for more than I got it so it bolstered my "pot of £" to make the jump to VEGA viable.

As OCuk had a weekly special on EK full cover block I've also ordered that.

Hope to test various mods, etc which have been discussed in thread and share what goes on smile.gif .
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Well I bit the bullet on a RX VEGA 64 Limited Edition yesterday. Now waiting eagerly for delivery.

Seemed to me the best deal I may see this side of Christmas. £515 delivered, ~£11 cashback, got Prey and Wolfenstein II with it (worth ~£40 in my estimates, so card is net ~£465 IMO).

The decision was concreted after having experienced the MSI GTX 1080 EK X. I missed the lack of variable refresh rate greatly, wasn't inclined to get into hassle of swapping my MG279Q for similar G-Sync monitor. Also missed some of the features of AMD driver panel which didn't have equivalents in nVidia drivers.

I was also lucky in that the Fury X sold at no loss. The MSI GTX 1080 EK X had a missing screw on WB so got a discount, I was able to sell it for more than I got it so it bolstered my "pot of £" to make the jump to VEGA viable.

As OCuk had a weekly special on EK full cover block I've also ordered that.

Hope to test various mods, etc which have been discussed in thread and share what goes on smile.gif .

I don't think you will be disappointed. I'm liking my 64 as much as the old 7970.
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I don't think you will be disappointed. I'm liking my 64 as much as the old 7970.

It would have been nice if the empty space on PCB wasn't there. A short card like the Fury X really did grown on me, every time I looked at it I thought WOW.

Is a shame bios mod is not open.

The pricing/availability has sucked, ah well it is what it is.

I reckon I won't be as well smile.gif , especially after having experienced green team and it not really being "my cup of tea" smile.gif .
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Originally Posted by gupsterg View Post

Well I bit the bullet on a RX VEGA 64 Limited Edition yesterday. Now waiting eagerly for delivery.

Seemed to me the best deal I may see this side of Christmas. £515 delivered, ~£11 cashback, got Prey and Wolfenstein II with it (worth ~£40 in my estimates, so card is net ~£465 IMO).

The decision was concreted after having experienced the MSI GTX 1080 EK X. I missed the lack of variable refresh rate greatly, wasn't inclined to get into hassle of swapping my MG279Q for similar G-Sync monitor. Also missed some of the features of AMD driver panel which didn't have equivalents in nVidia drivers.

I was also lucky in that the Fury X sold at no loss. The MSI GTX 1080 EK X had a missing screw on WB so got a discount, I was able to sell it for more than I got it so it bolstered my "pot of £" to make the jump to VEGA viable.

As OCuk had a weekly special on EK full cover block I've also ordered that.

Hope to test various mods, etc which have been discussed in thread and share what goes on smile.gif .

Nice, welcome to the club thumb.gif

I am curious to what you can achieve with an actual card.
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On another note, I found a way to eliminate all stability issues from pstate/clock changes when the load varies. No need for clockblocker anymore. Plus downclocking and ULPS works again normally.

I made a PP table that sets P4-P7 to the exact same frequency and then set P4 as the max. pstate in wattman. It seems every switch from P5-P7 to a lower pstate results in really weird instabilities that result in driver crashing or blackscreens.

I have been testing it the last few days with various voltage/frequency combinations and it has not crashed even a single time.
As long as the voltage is stable for that frequency of course. Now running OCCT in errorcheck mode , the card behaves more like a traditional card. It shows errors when unstable and not just outright crashes. Frequency range seems to be much more tight now. Max frequency drop under very intense loads (OCCT) is now 66mhz. On P6&P7 it is around 150mhz+

Only downside is that you have to to edit the PPtable for every change in frequency or voltage, since P4 is not configurable via tools.
But if you know your stable values you are safe from erratic crashes and can really max out your cards potential.



OCCT Shader7 - 2560x1080 Error Checking ( thats as hard as it gets for powerconsumption)


Tabing in and out of OCCT window would crash the system very fast. Now it´s not a problem anymore.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0000]
"PP_PhmSoftPowerPlayTable"=hex:9D,02,08,01,00,5C,00,37,07,00,00,EC,2B,00,00,1B,\
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Edited by Nuke33 - 10/20/17 at 2:06pm
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Hi OC'ers

I may have something interesting for VEGA 56 owners out there.

I have had a crack at combining the work of the main contributors here and on youtube.

My setup is a Asus B250 mining expert on mining mode with no overclock.

Have Vega 56 Air Cooled which I have flashed to Vega 64 Liquid Cooled.

A lot of peeps thought that was one step too far, but my tests show it is spot on Bevan.

Then ran a modified version of Hell M (MorePowerVega64_142_Modded_fix.reg)

and then further modded it as per above research to 99% optimal settings.

I went lucid at the 48 hour mark and got it up to 44.6MH but have been unable to replicate back there yet.

At the moment it chills on 43.9MH pretty happily with a bit lower for the 1 minute average.

On Nanopool it gives very good feedback in excess of Claymore stats so all good in da hood.

Will save my big ups list till a few ppl can confirm it works for them also.

-Edit stay tuned for link-
Edited by Blockchainfive - 10/21/17 at 3:27am
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@halsafar

+rep for share and creation of softpowerplay editor, added to OP useful links section thumb.gif .

@hellm

+rep for share of ASUS RX VEGA 64 Strix ROMs and softpowerplay, added ROMs to OP and compiling updated zip with all reg files to update one in OP thumb.gif . I have linked also 2 posts of yours concerning the modding of softpowerplay, etc.

@Nuke33

Thanks for the welcome! thumb.gif . I guess resistance was futile to VEGA in my case! biggrin.gif . Yes will be interesting to tinker with VEGA, I doubt I will be able to extend what members have already achieved, but I will share what I can on my exploits for sure smile.gif . +rep for share of your experience smile.gif .

@Blockchainfive

I had +repped your post for share of reg file that gave you success with mining when you posted it. I read now you have removed the link. I did get the reg file for viewing, but will not infringe on your right to share or not. I am requesting you please do restore it so other may try your mod smile.gif . I have never mined nor have any idea on doing this, but your file could help others which is what the thread/forum is about IMO.
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My strategy was to export the reg file which I had tuned, but it turned out to still be OEM Hell M settings!

If peeps can give me some time for a power nap, I will have a go in the next 24 to fix.

Failing that will share the settings and ask one of many Powerplay gurus to adjust.

This is me right now, cards settled in.

The power still wrestling with a bit around 160-170W, keeping in mind the silicon lottery and other people not getting a BSOD when the share is fixed.


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And here are my ODNT setting which am hoping to reg up so you don't have to enter them in all the time.

It has been a mindbending process as you spend hours tweaking one setting to come to the conclusion it has not much clout on the overall situ.

The card lets you play with settings but is always one step ahead about what its reaction is or one step behind as in slowly adjusts.

Paraphrasing

1. Vega 64 Liquid Cooled Bios, fastest and quickest way to get up your ETH stats.
(At first it seems like the temp limit is restrictive but as you tune non issue)
2. Fan settings took me a while to understand, my take is it keeps your core voltage strict and in turn your hash strict orig 2861RPM presently testing 2250RPM and still solid on MH
3. Ambient temperature and humidity, this card seems very bound to TEMP so its either EKWB$$$$ or +RPM/DB
4. The BSOD seems to be around P7 mV as one of my cards handles 850 flat, the other needs 855 to avoid BSOD. Hence REG should be 855 for max compatibility.
5. Power is currently on 440W/240V EVGA850G3GOLD. I did see under 400W but once again BSOD lurks
6. I think with 44MH on a VEGA 56 AIR and the card not at full tilt, we can build off each others work for further gains.

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