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Just bought a Ryzen 1800x (Upgrading from i7 920)

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I've been running an i7 920 (currently OC'd to 3.6ghz) for 8 years. It's starting to feel sluggish in my JetBrains IDE. I routinely see CPU usage going over 50% an all cores when I'm working a lot.

Decided it's time to upgrade... surprisingly to an AMD CPU. Didn't see that coming before this year haha.

New Build:

Ryzen 1800x
ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero motherboard (need lots of SATA ports)
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 3200mhz (Samsung B Die - Dual Rank... stupid amount of research required to pick RAM for Ryzen...)
Samsung 960 PRO 512GB
Corsair Obsidian Series 750D for case.
Corsais H110i for cooler.
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 Gold 750W for PSU.
GTX 1070 FTW Hybrid for GPU.

I'm hoping for a big jump in productivity! These 1-2 second lags in clicking add up big time!

Also hoping the SSD upgrade will provide a real-world performance boost.

EDIT: Talk about mission creep. I ended up buying a lot more new components than I originally expected. A whole new system...
 
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If it's speed you're looking for I'd advise against the 960 Evo 250GB. Once it saturates the SLC cache it will drop down to the TLC NAND's natvie 300MB/s.

The 500GB version doesn't have that issue since the native TLC NAND speed is 500MB/s.

For the RAM I would go for 3200MHz CL14 Samsung B-die. The CL16 sticks tend to be Hynix.
 
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Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post

If it's speed you're looking for I'd advise against the 960 Evo 250GB. Once it saturates the SLC cache it will drop down to the TLC NAND's natvie 300MB/s.

The 500GB version doesn't have that issue since the native TLC NAND speed is 500MB/s.

For the RAM I would go for 3200MHz CL14 Samsung B-die. The CL16 sticks tend to be Hynix.
Yea I was on the fence for the EVO... read about that 300MB/s drop... I changed the order to 960 PRO 512GB since it was just a $70 difference vs 960 EVO 500GB.

And I can't find CL14 3200mhz 32GB DDR4 RAM kits. It's probably fine.
 
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I assume your getting the NM-AM4 kit for your existing cooler?
 
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Thanks for that list! Yea even though my kit isn't on that list, my kit definitely is Hynix. I didn't change it. got it for $295 vs something fancier from GSkill for $350. My logic was that the Corsair Vengeance 3200 will be easier to find in a couple years when I wanna buy a second RAM kit to double my RAM.
 
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congratz, i made the jump from x58 to 1700x when it first came out. you def came in the right time since they sorted out the ram issue. one thing with ryzen is you def need a beefy cooler, one thing i would look into is would the corsair ram actually raech 3200mhz? i got a pair of g skill before and i only able to get it up to 2400mhz before getting the ones i have now.
 
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congratz, i made the jump from x58 to 1700x when it first came out. you def came in the right time since they sorted out the ram issue. one thing with ryzen is you def need a beefy cooler, one thing i would look into is would the corsair ram actually raech 3200mhz? i got a pair of g skill before and i only able to get it up to 2400mhz before getting the ones i have now.
Thanks for the heads up. If it doesn't run at 3200mhz, I'll send it back and get a G.Skill kit with Samsung-B RAM

EDIT: After doing more research, I decided to pull the trigger on the G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-32GVR) anyway and return the Corsair without opening it. Looks like I'll most likely only get 2933mhz out of them since they're 16GB dual rank sticks rather than 8GB single rank sticks. Possibly more in future bios update.... Really stupid the amount of research required to pick a proper Ryzen setup.
 
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Originally Posted by LXXIII View Post

Thanks for the heads up. If it doesn't run at 3200mhz, I'll send it back and get a G.Skill kit with Samsung-B RAM

EDIT: After doing more research, I decided to pull the trigger on the G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-32GVR) anyway and return the Corsair without opening it. Looks like I'll most likely only get 2933mhz out of them since they're 16GB dual rank sticks rather than 8GB single rank sticks. Possibly more in future bios update.... Really stupid the amount of research required to pick a proper Ryzen setup.
Please post up how that ram works out for you.
 
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This Corsair Hynix RAM is terrible. Glad I've got a G.Skill Samsung-B coming in tomorrow. Can't get the Hynix to go above 2400mhz :/
Yea I was referring to the G.Skill, I am planning to buy the exact same one that you ended up getting and I figured it would be good to wait and see how it works for you before ordering once I saw you were getting the exact same one.

Also a bit of irony I am also moving from the same cpu generation from my build, I am going from an i7 965 to the 1800x or 1700(OC). (I also have a 920 that I use for my tv computer)
 
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Yea I was referring to the G.Skill, I am planning to buy the exact same one that you ended up getting and I figured it would be good to wait and see how it works for you before ordering once I saw you were getting the exact same one.

Also a bit of irony I am also moving from the same cpu generation from my build, I am going from an i7 965 to the 1800x or 1700(OC). (I also have a 920 that I use for my tv computer)
I'll let you know tmrw how it goes.

And yea, my 920 has the same fate in store for it: HTPC!

Is moving to Ryzen a done deal for you? Not considering anything from Intel?
 
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Yes, I have already bought the heatsink so I am committed now. I have basically ordered all the parts minus any of the actual computer components lol.I am waiting until this week to order the motherbaord, cpu, ram and psu. I am supposed to be getting a new credit card that will give me 5% cash back on newegg so I am waiting for that card before buying anything there.
 
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I regret not getting an 7820x system for just $300 more...Maybe it's not too late?...

I don't know...

The Corsair Hynix RAM would not run above 2400mhz and stock CPU settings.

The G.Skill Samsung RAM is better.

I'm running Prime95 to find a stable clock on the CPU and RAM but the RAM won't run above 2933mhz.

Overclocking ~4ghz (with 1.45v on CPU) and ~2800mhz RAM (1.35v) failed P95 after an hour... I'm looking for 8 hours of stability on P95. Today I'm trying 4ghz CPU and ~2600mhz RAM.

This is such a waste of my time. I was hoping I wouldn't care about overclocking for the first couple years. But the OC'ing has helped the framerate in GTA V. By about 10fps so I hope I can find a stable 4ghz solution...

How difficult would it be to return my CPU/Mobo to Amazon and RAM to Newegg?
 
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Originally Posted by LXXIII View Post

I regret not getting an 7820x system for just $300 more...Maybe it's not too late?...

I don't know...

The Corsair Hynix RAM would not run above 2400mhz and stock CPU settings.

The G.Skill Samsung RAM is better.

I'm running Prime95 to find a stable clock on the CPU and RAM but the RAM won't run above 2933mhz.

Overclocking ~4ghz (with 1.45v on CPU) and ~2800mhz RAM (1.35v) failed P95 after an hour... I'm looking for 8 hours of stability on P95. Today I'm trying 4ghz CPU and ~2600mhz RAM.

This is such a waste of my time. I was hoping I wouldn't care about overclocking for the first couple years. But the OC'ing has helped the framerate in GTA V. By about 10fps so I hope I can find a stable 4ghz solution...

How difficult would it be to return my CPU/Mobo to Amazon and RAM to Newegg?
It would probably be hard to return an open box CPU i would think. That being said i had to settle for less than 4Ghz as well, but i'm perfectly content. Not saying you should be, but it isn't too bad.

If all you do is game then the 7800x was always the way to go, at least until games utilize all cores. Maybe Destiny 2 will use all the threads like they promised.
 
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It would probably be hard to return an open box CPU i would think. That being said i had to settle for less than 4Ghz as well, but i'm perfectly content. Not saying you should be, but it isn't too bad.

If all you do is game then the 7800x was always the way to go, at least until games utilize all cores. Maybe Destiny 2 will use all the threads like they promised.
You're right. I really shouldn't care. I almost never game. I've been gaming a lot this weekend cuz of the new system. and I use gaming as a sort of 'benchmarking' lol.

I finally upgraded because I was seeing serious slowdowns in my coding software. And obviously those slowdowns have been entirely eliminated. So it's all good. I'll take the $300 savings and buy some bitcoin lol.
 
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So you have not been able to get the 3200mhz G.Skill to actually run at 3200mhz? Are you using the latest bios?
Using latest BIOS from July 7th (1403). When I keep everything default but only set RAM to 3200mhz, it posts with 2133mhz. Highest it'll post is ~2950mhz. But at least it does that speed relatively stable (1hr P95 -- so far).

Since I can only get 3.92ghz relatively stable, I've removed all OC'ing from the CPU so that it'll use Turbo and XFR to get those higher clocks on one core. Or is a 3.9ghz OC still better than stock? I was thinking I'd just go with stock until a few more BIOS updates before I try for 4ghz again.
 
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Originally Posted by LXXIII View Post

Using latest BIOS from July 7th (1403). When I keep everything default but only set RAM to 3200mhz, it posts with 2133mhz. Highest it'll post is ~2950mhz. But at least it does that speed relatively stable (1hr P95 -- so far).

Since I can only get 3.92ghz relatively stable, I've removed all OC'ing from the CPU so that it'll use Turbo and XFR to get those higher clocks on one core. Or is a 3.9ghz OC still better than stock? I was thinking I'd just go with stock until a few more BIOS updates before I try for 4ghz again.
Sorry for the delay.

I'd leave it at 3.9Ghz 24/7. I think the extra 200Mhz(3.9Ghz 8 Cores vs {3.7Ghz all core base with XFR}) all core is better than the extra 200Mhz for 2 cores personally(4.1Ghz XFR 2 Core vs {3.9Ghz base with OC}). It was an easier decision for me though since my 1700x just boosts to 3.7Ghz 2 core, or 3.5 8 core.

That is some pretty nice speed for RAM too, 2950? I leave mine at 2133 since i run 32GB. I got it stable to 2666Mhz at one point but if i push that it makes my 3.9Ghz clock not stable. Mind you i have 3200Mhz ram that i ran no problem on a 6700k.
 
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Running 3200mhz with Gskill and Crosshair is no problem since very first bios versions(for me and lot of other users).
And even with 32gb it is no Magic anymore!

If you want more info i suggest reading: Link
Iduno man, if I keep everything at stock and only set DRAM to anything above 3000MHz, it boots with the RAM speed down to 2133MHz. I've never seen it boot with a number above 3000MHz even with everything set to stock...

That being said, I did play around with the settings a little more this week and managed to get a stable 4GHz (100BLK and 40x ratio). The key was setting LLC to Level 3 and Vcore to Offset + 0.01250. Vcore in Aida64 hovers between 1.417 and 1.439 v. I'm perfectly comfortable with that voltage with the H110i cooler. Also disabled spread spectrum. But the key was LLC to Level 3 and getting a Vcore low enough to safely apply that Level 3 LLC.

Also, I did just update the BIOS to the recently released version 1501.
 
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