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GIGABYTE GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI -- is it available ?

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Does anybody have a GIGABYTE GA-AB350N-Gaming WIFI motherboard yet .
NewEgg had them listed but now says out of stock !
Now says "Not available. See similar items below"
So I do not know if they are even available .
I am hoping so , but not holding my breath .
I do not really have a need for one just want one to play with to see what it can do.
 

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#2 ·
Mine is coming in tomorrow. It was available for a day or two on Newegg's site when you could only search for it by name, but it did not show up when filtering the AM4 boards down to mITX. The day after I ordered it was out of stock so I would guess more are on the way in the next couple weeks.
 
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Mine is coming in tomorrow. It was available for a day or two on Newegg's site when you could only search for it by name, but it did not show up when filtering the AM4 boards down to mITX. The day after I ordered it was out of stock so I would guess more are on the way in the next couple weeks.
Cool thanks
 
#5 ·
I have downloaded the manual (pdf) basically just want to buy one ( going to put it in a yellow Corsair 380t graphite case )
I will be running Linux on it if I can get it all running properly .
Let us know how you go with it if it all works ok .
The main thing was where I could get one . ( I am in Australia )
 
#8 ·
I saw that review, and I was hoping it was over critical. However, I'm having a hell of time getting the board to cooperate with me. If I set any manual vCore my multiplier drops to 15.5 in Windows. I can leave it on auto and get the multiplier or I can overclock with Ryzen Master. I'm a firm believer in BIOS overclocking over doing it software.

From my research this issue is not just on this board, but others see it sporadically. Some people experience it with a CPU/motherboard combo and others don't. I'm running through all the potential fixes.
 
#9 ·
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Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post

I saw that review, and I was hoping it was over critical. However, I'm having a hell of time getting the board to cooperate with me. If I set any manual vCore my multiplier drops to 15.5 in Windows. I can leave it on auto and get the multiplier or I can overclock with Ryzen Master. I'm a firm believer in BIOS overclocking over doing it software.

From my research this issue is not just on this board, but others see it sporadically. Some people experience it with a CPU/motherboard combo and others don't. I'm running through all the potential fixes.
I already have the case , psu , 240mm aio cooler , Video card , all I need is the mobo CPU and ram .
Which means I am committed to a specific type of build and if the vrm overheats with an aio watercooler , that build can not happen , I will have to search for / wait for a different board .
Unfortunate but , it is at least better to find out before I get the board rather than when the vrms fail later on .
 
#10 ·
Very true. I heavily considered doing custom water on this build just because I like building loops, but this thing is going into my theater room as a small gaming rig in there so I opted for all air. I lucked out in that regard. I got a sizable down firing cooler so the VRMs get blasted and I have two 140mm intakes on top so it's not a problem for my use case, but it sure is disappointing they skimped given most people are going to have these in now limited airflow scenarios.

I still can't set a manual vCore though. I've tried all the fixes I've found for this issue, but nothing works for me. Looks like I'll be running stock until AMD figured it out.

Edit: Forgot to mention. I got the G Skill Flare X 3200MHz 16GB kit. That boots on it's XMP profile with no fuss at all. They are ugly, but if your case doesn't have a window like mine is recommend them.
 
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Very true. I heavily considered doing custom water on this build just because I like building loops, but this thing is going into my theater room as a small gaming rig in there so I opted for all air. I lucked out in that regard. I got a sizable down firing cooler so the VRMs get blasted and I have two 140mm intakes on top so it's not a problem for my use case, but it sure is disappointing they skimped given most people are going to have these in now limited airflow scenarios.

I still can't set a manual vCore though. I've tried all the fixes I've found for this issue, but nothing works for me. Looks like I'll be running stock until AMD figured it out.

Edit: Forgot to mention. I got the G Skill Flare X 3200MHz 16GB kit. That boots on it's XMP profile with no fuss at all. They are ugly, but if your case doesn't have a window like mine is recommend them.
I am using a Corsair 380T ( yellow) for this build . now I am waiting to see how the Asrock boards go .
 
#12 ·
I got this motherboard too and am disappointed. I can confirm the massive swings in CPU core voltage when under load and the 15.5 CPU multiplier bug. I've also noticed it doesn't set my RAM timings correctly (XMP profile CAS 15, but both Auto and manually setting 15 result in CAS 16 when in Windows).

I have an ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming-ITX/ac coming on Monday, hopefully ASRock did a better job with the UEFI.
 
#13 ·
I just got this board yesterday from Fry's (and if you are still looking for one they had quite a few at my store in Indiana). It really does spike the voltage up quite high no matter what LLC I've tried. I haven't taken my 1400 past 3.7Ghz because I still need to figure out the best way to work the volts. That being said I just plugged in my 3000Mhz Corsair RAM CMU16GX4M2C3000C15 and yay it worked. At least it seems like it's stable and passed OCCT and it boots pretty fast unlike my CH6. I'm just glad we're finally getting ITX options. I'll be sure to let you guys know if I stumble on any setting that helps mitigate the fluctuating voltage.
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Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post

I saw that review, and I was hoping it was over critical. However, I'm having a hell of time getting the board to cooperate with me. If I set any manual vCore my multiplier drops to 15.5 in Windows. I can leave it on auto and get the multiplier or I can overclock with Ryzen Master. I'm a firm believer in BIOS overclocking over doing it software.

From my research this issue is not just on this board, but others see it sporadically. Some people experience it with a CPU/motherboard combo and others don't. I'm running through all the potential fixes.
I've manually OC'd my 1400 with no problem. I set cpu volts to 1.25 and LLC to low (it still jumps to 1.31V under load). MY CPU is set to 3.7Ghz. Are you on the F2 BIOS? I did see the 1.5GHz clocks before I started overclocking though I just figured that was the cool and quiet keeping the clocks down.
 
#15 ·
Yeah, I have the F2 BIOS. The issue I'm encountering isn't board or CPU specific. Seems to just randomly hit people. 15.5 is the lowest the multi will drop with no load, but in my situation it just stays there when under lost if I have vCore manually set. BIOS shows the correct info, but in Windows it just stays at 15.5, but with the vCore I set. I can then turn around and leave vCore on auto and set my multi and I get the clocks in Windows.

I've reloaded BIOS, rolled back to F1, back to F2, reinstalled Windows, turned off all power saving options, and nothing works.
 
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Yeah, I have the F2 BIOS. The issue I'm encountering isn't board or CPU specific. Seems to just randomly hit people. 15.5 is the lowest the multi will drop with no load, but in my situation it just stays there when under lost if I have vCore manually set. BIOS shows the correct info, but in Windows it just stays at 15.5, but with the vCore I set. I can then turn around and leave vCore on auto and set my multi and I get the clocks in Windows.

I've reloaded BIOS, rolled back to F1, back to F2, reinstalled Windows, turned off all power saving options, and nothing works.
Well that is some weird behavior. It really does feel like the BIOS isn't quite where it should be yet. I've never dealt with Gigabyte's Customer Service or Tech help. Are they any good and have you contacted them to see if they have any idea what's going on?
 
#17 ·
There's no point as this is happening on MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte, ASRock, etc. The official responses I've seen elsewhere is the problem lies on AMD's side with their AGESA code and they are awaiting an update from them. If you search for something like Ryzen multiplier stuck at 15.5 or 22 you'll find some posts on ASUS, MSI, reddit, here, etc. All kinds of different solutions that work for some, but not others. It is indeed very strange considering how random it is.
 
#18 ·
I've opened a ticket with Gigabyte on the issue I'm having on the manual vcore settings. It's been sitting in new status for a couple days, and I've heard nothing. I'm not really expecting much for this. I'm currently debating on trying out one of the ASRock boards, but I'd like to see what Gigabyte says. I'm also hoping for some random BIOS update to release that might address the issue.
 
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I've opened a ticket with Gigabyte on the issue I'm having on the manual vcore settings. It's been sitting in new status for a couple days, and I've heard nothing. I'm not really expecting much for this. I'm currently debating on trying out one of the ASRock boards, but I'd like to see what Gigabyte says. I'm also hoping for some random BIOS update to release that might address the issue.
I just ordered the ASRock B350 ITX board from NewEgg , It is coming from the US and I am in Australia so unsure of shipping time but should only take a week or so .
 
#21 ·
I have not as yet worked out which cpu I am getting yet ( looking at the 1700k but that in Australia is $509 or more )
So far I have a Corsair 380T case 2 @ 275gig ssd 1 2 3tb Toshiba HDD ( spinning rust variety ) corsair CS750M psu a Gigabyte R9380 video card ( at least until the new cards from both sides release )
No CPU , no RAM yet .
The monitor is a Philips 43 inch UHD ( 2160p )
 
#22 ·
Gigabyte released an F3 BIOS. Notes specify improvements for APUs, but I tried it out just in case before putting in my ASRock board. No change for me. My ASRock board has no issues manually controlling the voltage and multiplier so far. I've just started playing with it though, but looking positive. I still actually like the layout better on the Gigabyte board for my specific case.
 
#23 ·
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Originally Posted by Ricdeau View Post

Gigabyte released an F3 BIOS. Notes specify improvements for APUs, but I tried it out just in case before putting in my ASRock board. No change for me. My ASRock board has no issues manually controlling the voltage and multiplier so far. I've just started playing with it though, but looking positive. I still actually like the layout better on the Gigabyte board for my specific case.
What case are you using ?
I am using a corsair 380t in bright yellow .
The ASRock board suits me better .
I have not had an ASRock board before ,
I mostly use Asus or Gigabyte since the Demise of Abit .
 
#24 ·
I have a Fractal Design Core 500 with a Corsair SF450. I only really had to deal with excess PCIe cables the rest mostly fit perfectly with their length. With the ASRock board there's bit more clutter, but since I used an SFX PSU I have some extra space at the PSU. I like to keep things super tidy in my cases. I used the stock cooler for a bit while waiting on the correct mounting bracket from Noctua, and I have to say it was pretty good all things considered. I read quite a bit during the launch of Ryzen that they were fairly impressive for a stock cooling solution, but sometimes you just have to see for yourself.

This is what it looked like with the Gigabyte board. The SATA power cable was the only thing I just couldn't really clean up.


My last two boards have been Gigabayte, and I've been quite happy with them. Specifically the one in my signature rig was very nice. This one has left a good bit to be desired though. The BIOS feel very stripped down. I thought it was a Ryzen thing, but the ASRock, while a little more basic than what I've been used to with my last number of Intel CPUs, is more fully featured and is much better to work with. The Gigabyte does have better sensors though. The ASRock has a few sensors that are just incorrect and read around 110-120C, but hopefully that gets corrected. It appears to be displaying the value in F instead of C, but still labeling them in degrees C. When I load F-Stream it corrects my motherboard temp to match. If you do a degrees F to C conversion it is correct. It leaves AUXTIN1 and AUXTIN2 incorrect though, but I suspect those have the same issue. I suspect at least one of those is the MOSFET temp.

I was able to hit 3.8GHz at less voltage on the ASRock than what I used through Ryzen Master on the Gigabyte, and I feel like I still have plenty of voltage headroom to squeeze more. Even if I just stay at 3.8GHz I'm pretty happy with my results on the ASRock. I still plenty of tinkering around to do. It ran my 3200MHz XMP profile with no issues at all just like the Gigabyte board so I'll probably see how much extra I can squeeze out of them too.
 
#25 ·
Update to my Ryzen mITX experience so far: I originally had the Gigabyte ITX but after experiencing the unstable vcore issue, 15.5 multiplier bug and RAM tCAS issue, I decided to grab the ASRock X370 ITX (B350 model was out of stock at the time).

After playing with both, I need to update my complaints on the Gigabyte: the 15.5 multiplier bug and RAM tCAS issue seem to exist on many boards and is probably AMD's fault, not Gigabyte's. I did a lot of reading and can go into more detail if anyone wants. Also, the Gigabyte board did not allow P-state overclocking, just manual. As a result, my 1700 never downclocked in Windows.

The ASRock has been a better experience (stable vcore, P-state overclocking) but it has a few short-comings of its own:

- The CPU socket is stupid close to the VRM heatsink. As a result, the AMD Wraith stock cooler does NOT fit. Even the Noctua NH-U9S cooler can't mount in the traditional front-back orientation, only the alternate up-down.
- The ASRock board has fewer sensors (no RAM voltage reading, unlike the Gigabyte) and some of them are comically inaccurate. The SVI2 TFN sensors from the CPU itself seem accurate though.
- The Gigabyte board could run my RAM at 3600MHz 1.35v no problem. The ASRock board needs 1.4v at 3466MHz with the same timings.
- The ASRock board does not have LLC options, whereas the Gigabyte does. Without LLC, my CPU runs at 1.232v under load but will jump to 1.275v during light or mixed-load usage and transitions to idle.
- The Clear CMOS jumper is on the bottom-right of the board. It's annoying to remove the GPU every time you need to reset the BIOS.

The VRM heatsink on both boards get really hot when stressing the CPU (3.8GHz) but I didn't see any CPU throttling on either of them. A little 80mm fan or a top-down CPU air cooler would significantly reduce the temperature.

If Gigabyte can fix their unstable vcore issue and expose the AMD CBS options (allows custom P-states and a ton of other options), it could be as good or better than the ASRock.
 
#26 ·
Damn, i just ordered this board for an ITX build for the family with a 1600x and GSkill 3200. Greg at Salazar studio gave it a decent a review but didn't really go into depth. I figured the layout was weird and maybe i'd have a hard time getting the AIO glacer 240 on there but didn't think there would be a problem with the rest. The main appeal was built in Wifi, though now i see both ASrock boards offer the same.

I usually am an Asus fan but least to my knowledge newegg didn't seem to have any AM4 Mini-ITX boards. Gigabyte has served me well on my sig rig with the G1.Sniper3 despite me not being the biggest fan of that BIOS on that particular board. I saw Greg's review (Salazar Studios) and he seemed to like the board so i was going to give it a try.

Seeing this thread made me cancel immediately. @MrLinky will i have room to fit my 240L glacer on the ASrock? Or am i SOL?

Build so far is looking like this.
1600x - would go 1600, but for 15$ i'll take the extra clock speed, as i dunno that i'm going to push this. Plus i already have a cooler.
GSkill FlareX 3200 16Gb kit
Fractal Design Define S nano
Samsung EVO 250
WD Black 1TB
Corsair TX 750
Old Diamond reference 7970
 
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