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Ah fu** :/

Was it a new rad ? Or an "old" one which suddently leaked ?

It was a brand new Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 240mm radiator. From the moment I got it I already had an issue with two of the holes not fitting most of my new fittings. In the end only my bitspower hardline compression fittings would properly fit without cross-threading.

For the good news I'm testing out my new RX Vega 56 and it's stunning what the right BIOS can do for Vega. No thermal throttling with the stock cooler on Turbo Wattman settings when folding, getting around 450k PPD. I'll be putting it underwater shortly with a single 360mm radiator for the Ryzen 1700 and Vega 56. The 56 runs noticeably cooler at full load than the FE did.
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Fall update beta drivers power readings redface.gif
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Fall update beta drivers power readings redface.gif

are you running the actual fall update as in windows?
and yeah those readings are a tad weird smile.gif

did you black out the city block or what tongue.gif
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My VEGA was holding 1800 or so, didn't write down or screen shot.... While my son was playing prey on my VEGA via steam link. I had to adjust wattman when he was done to go custom (instead of balanced) to go back to mining when not in use. Maybe I was seeing something. But I'll definitely have to re-test in the future. I'm pretty sure is was 1802 or something like that on the core. Perhaps it was a fluke, or perhaps I am tripping. I don't know.

What was doing the reporting? Be sure to update whatever it is to the latest and or greatest version. There were some issues with false reports and "amazing" clocks which are simply not true. Now to be fair, and to clarify, that a Vega hit some high frequency... once... and didn't hose is noteworthy, but doesn't really mean all that much.

By maximal clock, I mean the "average" sustained clock rate over a 10 minute time span averaged in a repeating bench, including maxima and minima of the frequency curve performance. HWinfo64 is very handy for this. This number is going to vary from application to application, but ultimately, the goal for me is to realize the best possible clock for the most performance while minimizing the driver / application failure. Now, I am fairly tolerant of a dodgy setup if it gets me at least 2 fps at my native res in my minimums. (For freesync purposes @ 3440 @ 100 hz, so my minimum acceptable low is 48, ideally 55+).

The reason I call BS is just from my own experience and hours of tweakin' n' benching on the sig rig with a Vega 64 Ref on the LC Bios, EKWB; 600 mm of rad, 3/4 gal fluid, 18w pump; in a positive pressure room with a dedicated LG inverter and 2 air circulation tower fans.
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1737 held for 22 mins
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1796ish application crash

1710-1720s has been (in my experience, your mileage may vary) a physically realizable frequency that is perfectly "game-able". Not sure I would trust it mining or doing significant work for $$$... drop another 10mhz for reliability. To go further is to get into reg. tweaking the core voltage... which looks dodgy.
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Your explanation of the clocks and benchmarks makes sense to me, which is why the statement struck me as odd. If the air cooled and water cooled were equivalent at chip level except for a cooler, then AMD was literally just selling an AIO for $500. There has to be a performance difference. I mean, even that may not be worth $500, but still.

Well even at that, there are not all that many AIOs which can be set @ stock settings and still hold up with a +50 power... most that I have seen... crash. Vega is only going to clock up if there is suitable power and volts in reserve. The stock AIO setting... never going to see that P7 except once in a blue moon... its near pointless. P6 can help out there, once you find your Vegas P7 limit, or... it finds your patience threshold with all the rebooting.

Frame rates are all! thumb.gif
 
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Amd software stop working when you switch ? If so, it's because of rtss, you need to exclude the process amd is using to switch drivers. I'm not in front of my pc right now, but you can find the name in the task manager or event log when it's crashing.

Well i somehow got it to prompt me now, and i have it working so far. I removed one gpu but seemed to still have issues, then in the middle of trying drivers i got a windows update. After all that i reloaded 17.10 over 17.10 and it finally prompted me for driver options... Thank god...

So anyways its late here but ill test it with both gpus tomorrow and see if that has anything to do with it.
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Alright confirmation with 2nd vega fe installed i loose "driver options" and not only that it defaults to radeon pro ui even if i am on gaming driver. I guess ill try reporting this to them but i wont hold my breath.

Gah i knew it was too good to be true, back to 17.6 i guess or use my second vega as a paper weight...
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are you running the actual fall update as in windows?
and yeah those readings are a tad weird smile.gif

did you black out the city block or what tongue.gif

Didn't have it, but just finished installing the update, fortunately with no hiccups or bsod bootlooping.

Didn't change anything tho, still got insane power draw measurements.
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Fall update beta drivers power readings redface.gif

Yeah, they're pretty screwy. I've just been dividing them by 100. Seems close enough on mine (which reports 22,016). Yours, probably not.
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Looks like Core power is correct but Chip power went full retard!
    
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Yeah, they're pretty screwy. I've just been dividing them by 100. Seems close enough on mine (which reports 22,016). Yours, probably not.

ok well I just did the fall update took ages a few quirky things I need to work out
installed the amd fall update redid my clocks started firestrike extreme 2 minute in BOOM looked up and the cpu started going freaking nuts...I was sitting here watching the taichis cpu temp leds go up and up and up and they never go up smile.gif so kill it kill it kill it
reinstalled 17.93 and sticking with it for now back to normal.

first and last beta i try for awhile tongue.gif

now I have to do some work then install the xspc block on the threadripper
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