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You may want to remove that before getting an infraction bud.

done.
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I am sure the drives will get better with time and I know this is a bit of a scare. However, I thought it was necessary to at last inform people to be aware of what I have been seeing. It may be that what is coming to my shop is a small percentage or may be the tip of a bigger problem. However, in the past few months, the number of 8TB drives coming in have been increasing. There are not a ton of them out there right now but it to me says something is going on.

Am I being a bit pestimistic? Yes. Maybe too cautious? Yes. But I would rather go with my gut and experience on these things. When 1.5TB drives came, we saw a ton of them. When 3TB drives came out, saw a bunch of those. I dont see a bunch of 4, 5 and 6TB drives. But something with the 8TBs are a bit weird. Maybe it is the fact they are Helium filled (those are the majority of what I am seeing). Or maybe it is just the fact they are rather large leaving chance for things to go wrong.

Either way, a bit of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Be aware, maintain your backups and nothing is an issue.

BTW, if anyone is keeping a single drive with all their work (or much of it) are asking for trouble. Regardless of the technology, size of drive, etc. Multiple locations is the only way to protect yourself.
which is why i ran to google to check the numbers. the numbers show it's not the case. unless i'm looking at them wrong? isn't helium supposed to make them better?
    
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The numbers are overall correct but the issue is that they don't update SMART very well. So, I think the numbers may be scewed.
 
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BTW, if anyone is keeping a single drive with all their work (or much of it) are asking for trouble. Regardless of the technology, size of drive, etc. Multiple locations is the only way to protect yourself.

aye no worries mate, all my main stuff is in the Cloud, I mostly am a gamer, so if my 5TB every dies its no sweat to me. minus being mad about the money, even then I am under warranty for 2.5 more years, so I should be good
    
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I noticed the phrase hellium drives -- could hellium not be the panacea some had hoped for? Do those drives really contain sealed hellium?
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I noticed the phrase hellium drives -- could hellium not be the panacea some had hoped for? Do those drives really contain sealed hellium?

Helium drives actually do contain helium. Helium has less drag than atmospheric air which allows platters to be closer together, allowing for more platters in a drive.

As far as being a panacea goes, apparently not, based on Lord Xeb's experience with failed helium drives.
     
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I noticed the phrase hellium drives -- could hellium not be the panacea some had hoped for? Do those drives really contain sealed hellium?

Helium drives actually do contain helium. Helium has less drag than atmospheric air which allows platters to be closer together, allowing for more platters in a drive.

As far as being a panacea goes, apparently not, based on Lord Xeb's experience with failed helium drives.

Plus, helium filled drives cannot work on air. You have to use them in a helium environment as far as what I have been able to get. There are still people doing research on this.
 
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helium is the future. i think i read somewhere that western digital is in a battle with hitcachi (whom they own) to start using helium. hitcahi is doing exceptionally well with helium and their drives are considerably cheaper.
i just got a 6tb black but an but my next drive in a few weeks is going to be a 10tb hitachi.
    
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My trouble with these drives is that they are so big bad sectors can pop up and you wouldnt know it. Its great and all to have these size of drives but new tech always needs time to mature.Personally, I am waiting at least a year or more before getting these kinds of drives. So far my experience with them has not been all that great.


BTW, WD 8TB and 10TB helium sealed drives are actually hitachi drives.



If you look at this drive and look where is says P/N that is a Hitachi part number. On the end of the drive, there are two stickers (not shown) but one is the serial (in the same format used by Hitachi). The other is the HDA code. Something only found on hitachi or hitachi built drives.


A WD manufactured drive has a longer serial number, a DCM, DCX and a date code all next to each other.



If you own a company, you dont compete against it. Instead you take the technology and apply it or rebrand it.
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