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Tables might turn sorta reminids me of the old days when amd had the better cpu and road the coat tails a little to long and intel came out with a great cpu tables intel has done the same thing theirs nothing wrong with their newer cpus just they are pricing them way to high.

AMD was still undercutting them then too. If you're going to scream 'FX-51/53+ GOTYA!' Just remember the Intel Emergency Edition that was worse still MSRPed for >$200 more.

The Athlon 64 was cheaper and better performing down the whole stack.
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The Athlon 64 FX-53 obliterated the competition in our gaming tests and more than held its own everywhere else, making a very strong argument for AMD's ownership of the Overall Performance Lead. Intel's Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3.4GHz gave the FX-53 tough competition in much of our test suite, especially in commercial 3D rendering apps, and the P4 Prescott 3.2GHz unexpectedly pushed the FX-53 in Sphinx speech recognition, some of the SPECviewperf component tests, and picCOLOR image processing. Still, if you held a link gun to my head and forced me to pick one Overall Performance Leader, I suppose the Athlon 64 FX-53 would have to be it—by a hair, depending on the application, blah blah blah. Then again, the Pentium 4 Extreme Edition lists at $999, so the FX-53 is a veritable bargain, if you do the math right.

Because the FX-53 will replace the FX-51 at the same $733 price point, I doubt the introduction of this new product will have much of an effect of the rest of AMD's lineup. However, the Opteron 148 is essentially the same thing as the Athlon 64 FX-51, and it costs $733, as well. Something's gotta give there eventually.

Techreport Review FX-53
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I know that AMD is still a LONG ways away from truly taking the fight to Intel in a significant way (at least in terms of brand imaging and mind share) but dang if it doesn't make me happy to see them really pushing Intel on the hardware front like they are with Zen. I don't think that a year ago I could have believed that they would have nailed this product as well as they have. Its not by any means an Intel-killer, but it is a mighty opening salvo in a new dawn of competition at every CPU segment from top to bottom and it finally gives AMD a chance to go somewhere truly great. That is a beautiful thing for every consumer and enthusiast of PC hardware and I can only pray that the lessons they are learning with Zen can somehow be applied to RTG in their fight with Nvidia at some point. Intel and Nvidia are simply beyond arrogant at this point and are continually treating their own fanboys with breathtaking contempt with each and every new release. Its time both are brought down a few pegs.

I'm just happy to see Intel piss their pants for once. It's amazing how low they'd stoop PR-wise. rolleyes.gif

Then again this is Intel we're talking about.
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I'm just happy to see Intel piss their pants for once. It's amazing how low they'd stoop PR-wise. rolleyes.gif

Then again this is Intel we're talking about.

 

At this point, I think they're so conceited that they don't even register what they've said as going low. "We're just telling our truth."

     
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The silly part is how they (Intel) really had nothing to fear from AMD financially in the first place, regardless of how successful the Zen derivatives become. Its hilarious to see them actually panicking about a tiny little company whose entire assets couldn't even keep a single one of Intel's divisions afloat!
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It just goes to show that Intel hasn't changed much over the years. When they were solidly ahead, they were fine playing the aloof, genteel elder statesman of x86. The minute things get remotely competitive, they dive for the gutter straight away. I imagine things will only get uglier if Zen APU's are contenders for the notebook market. It's one thing for AMD to compete in the desktop sphere. Now that AMD's also got an ostensibly improved server product, Intel is sharpening the knives. One can only assume that they'll redouble their efforts to smear AMD if the lucrative laptop market is threatened as well.

     
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i wonder if they'll restart their more underhanded dealings. rolleyes.gif
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The minute things get remotely competitive, they dive for the gutter straight away.

This
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It just goes to show that Intel hasn't changed much over the years. When they were solidly ahead, they were fine playing the aloof, genteel elder statesman of x86. The minute things get remotely competitive, they dive for the gutter straight away. I imagine things will only get uglier if Zen APU's are contenders for the notebook market. It's one thing for AMD to compete in the desktop sphere. Now that AMD's also got an ostensibly improved server product, Intel is sharpening the knives. One can only assume that they'll redouble their efforts to smear AMD if the lucrative laptop market is threatened as well.

The difference is, back then Intel was fighting AMD tooth and nail, and all of their best minds were hard at work. Now after 6 years of stagnation (and some heavy layoffs improvements to workforce efficiency), it kinda makes you wonder just how long it'll take Intel to get back in the game.

Maybe I should text my Intel CPU engineer friend thinking.gif

Then again, at this point Intel could survive on mind share and their beloved IDF alone. (no, not THAT IDF)
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It's not really glued when the performance scalability exceeds that of the solid silicon of Intel scalability.
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Lol at this. They still have a very long way to go to gain the majorities trust. I'm nowhere close to building my next gaming Rig around a Amd cpu.

May i ask why not ?
If you were to upgrade right now you would still go with Intel ?
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