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post #21 of 97
I have some awesome news regarding the bootability functions of the Highpoint SSD7101A. As I previously stated Highpoint did not support bootability functions for this device but in an email to me said they were working on it. Then they released another RAID manager, the SSD7110 which did support this feature. The 2 devices are very similar in nature with the exception that the SSD7110 also provided SAS/SATA ports . When they first released this device I attempted to replace the SSD7101A's drivers with the SSD7110's drivers in hopes that I could trick the device to support bootability. This did not work.

Well the situation has now changed. I just downloaded the latest SSD7110 drivers and after trying the same thing again I am pleased to report that the SSD7110 drivers which enable the bootability functions work with the SSD7101. Remember that Highpoint still states that the SSD7101 does not support this feature, and that the only 2 drives it supports are the 960 evo and 960pro. I blew that out of the water from the start by using my SM951's.

Here are the screenshots.




post #22 of 97
The issue for boot-ability is for hardware RAID right? Could you just software RAID? Just noticed AMD is releasing a patch to allow bootable NVMe RAID for X399.

https://www.techpowerup.com/236644/amd-to-enable-nvme-raid-on-x399-threadripper-platform



Also thanks for posting your experience cekim and others. I've been interested in seeing how this goes since its announcement.
Edited by TheBloodEagle - 8/31/17 at 8:51am
post #23 of 97
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The issue for boot-ability is for hardware RAID right? Could you just software RAID? Just noticed AMD is releasing a patch to allow bootable NVMe RAID for X399.

https://www.techpowerup.com/236644/amd-to-enable-nvme-raid-on-x399-threadripper-platform



Also thanks for posting your experience cekim and others. I've been interested in seeing how this goes since its announcement.

Bootable RAID is not possible with disk management, if that's what your referring to by software RAID. To make it bootable it needs to have either a BIOS setting or a standalone hardware solution as is the case with the SSD7101A. In this situation during Windows installation you would need to preload the RAID driver, and build the array in order for windows to recognize which partition to perform the installation. With RST this isn't an issue because most newer BIOS's natively support it. You could build your array in the BIOS and install windows or whatever OS you liked after you've done so. With Highpoint's solution, which is directed mainly towards X99 chipsets, you would start the Windows installation process. Then after your prompted to choose a drive for installation you would upload the driver, and then continue on with the installation. Highpoint's solution automatically configures the array to RAID 0 once the driver is installed. This of course would not be a good solution if you intended to use RAID 1 for your installation, but unless your intended usage is as a server then I doubt that would be an issue.
post #24 of 97
*Another thing that looks awesome yet have no excuse to buy*
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*Another thing that looks awesome yet have no excuse to buy*

My exact feelings regarding the X299 platform.
post #26 of 97
jsutter71:
thanks for the good news about boot-ability of the Highpoint SSD7101A!!
AMD should OEM this card for their Threadripper X399 chipset:
such a setup will run circles around Intel's DMI 3.0 bottleneck.
I've been pushing x16 edge connectors on RAID controllers for many years now,
and they are FINALLY showing up. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
post #27 of 97
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When I saw this announcement, I informed them that they needed to cease conversation and accept my remuneration hence!

Then it finally popped up on newegg - done and done... Let the merriment commence!



EDIT: (glorious...)



So how fast does it load windows and games?
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So how fast does it load windows and games?
lol... haven't even tried... but I'm pretty sure the answer is no perceptible difference from a single 960pro.

Random 4k performance is actually pretty lame - so lame I've asked HPT to look into it and no resolution so far.

VERY large block transfers (1M+ sequential) perform very well - 10-11GB/s...

It's not without its purpose/utility (many core applications that can manage their disk activity to lump it into 1M chunks for instance), but for games/boot times, get a single one and be done.
post #29 of 97
I'm in the same situation. I have a 1TB 960pro in my M.2 slot and 2 512GB SM951's in my Highpoint card in RAID 0. The 960pro is very fast and as much as I like the option to RAID 0 my boot drive, I haven't felt the need to do so given the 960's abilities. Now If I had a second 1TB 960 pro then I would be all over it. It's just that I'm not low enough on space yet to justify the purchase. Given that I spent the last 2 years searching for a RAID solution for NVMe drives I jumped on the Highpoint solution the second I found it for sale. The second SM951 only cost me $200 on ebay. Out of curiosity I ordered the Asus solution for the X299 chipset from B&H because it was cheap, about $50, and as soon as I get it in the next couple weeks I'll try it.

Edited by jsutter71 - 9/3/17 at 3:52pm
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lol... haven't even tried... but I'm pretty sure the answer is no perceptible difference from a single 960pro.

Random 4k performance is actually pretty lame - so lame I've asked HPT to look into it and no resolution so far.


QD1 or higher queue depths? RAID0 increases latency. QD1 4K reads won't improve. QD1 512b to 4K performance will actually be lower.
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