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All of gigabytes z370 pages went live. http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/Intel-Z370
Wow the Z370 HD3 looks great, I like it.biggrin.gif
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So does anyone know how much of a performance gap there is between the i5 8600k and the i7 8700k?

The reason I ask is because of the price difference. I know there is usually a wide gap between the 2 but this time around, it could be different, especially for games. Maybe the performance gap between the 2 is not that much?

I am still trying to figure out which one to get or I might just get the Non K version of the 8700......

decisions, decisions...........
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Wow the Z370 HD3 looks great, I like it.biggrin.gif

The Z370XP SLI has an interesting color scheme. Could look really slick in a black and white build thumb.gif
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So does anyone know how much of a performance gap there is between the i5 8600k and the i7 8700k?

The reason I ask is because of the price difference. I know there is usually a wide gap between the 2 but this time around, it could be different, especially for games. Maybe the performance gap between the 2 is not that much?

I am still trying to figure out which one to get or I might just get the Non K version of the 8700......

decisions, decisions...........

I think it just depends on what you're doing. If I were just gaming, I'd probably grab the 8600K just so that I could OC easier, since 6/6 and 6/12 probably won't be that different in gaming, especially since 6 real cores will probably be better than 4/8.
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Ryzen can still play esports games @144hz+. But yes Intel is better at higher refresh rates. I find anything over 45fps to be smooth enough. For twitch shooters like csgo. No, I gotta have 144hz.

I'm sure microcenter will run deals. $30 off mobo combo is likely.

SOME esports games, not all biggrin.gif and harder to do 240
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So does anyone know how much of a performance gap there is between the i5 8600k and the i7 8700k?

The reason I ask is because of the price difference. I know there is usually a wide gap between the 2 but this time around, it could be different, especially for games. Maybe the performance gap between the 2 is not that much?

I am still trying to figure out which one to get or I might just get the Non K version of the 8700......

decisions, decisions...........

Depends on the task, some will get 0% gain from the changes (Hyperthreading from 6c to 6c12t, little more L3) and others will get 30%+.

"gaming" is too general of a description to be exact but the vast majority of games have scaling that is poor or nonexistant beyond 6 cores
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Found some leaked 8700k full review here. Was posted at Guru3d first https://www.eteknix.com/full-intel-i7-8700k-cpu-review-leaks-out-ahead-of-launch/
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Seems that in CPU-bound/preferential games it provides a nice little bump. Those Witcher 3 results look nice.
 
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I really dont get how brainwashed ppl are thinking ht is a good thing. It was just a low cost solution which went on for 5 gens. In that respect good job intel.

Hence developers used it. Its not like they applauded it

Now with 8600k coming in at pure 6cores.
Than extra 2 cores will negate any gain on ht that a 7700k had.

Y do you think when game engine that doesnt use HT a 7600k for example will destroy a 7700k.

Any further discussion at this point is useless. Just wait and see the benchmarks. At that point the brainwashed will finally have the same feeling some christians reach when they swear by "Jesus is their Saviour". Cleansing.

Only benchmarks from digitalfoundry .. one can draw a conclusion. So wait for it.

Not brainwashed. Personal experience. HT helps alot in some games. HT can handle background tasks too. No HT meaning these background tasks will draw power from the main cores that the game use and this can result in dips.

HT on earlier 2C i3's also saved the gaming performance, or newer Pentiums. Disabling HT on these and fps dropped ALOT. So maybe you are the one brainwashed. I've personal experience with this. Very easy to test.

The i5-8600K might perform "good enough" in the beginning, but in a few years, the exact same thing will happen. The i7-8700K will start to pull ahead because of HT.

The i5-7600 does not destroy i7-7700K in ANY GAME, clock for clock / overclocked.
https://www.techspot.com/review/1360-amd-ryzen-5-1600x-1500x-gaming/

i7 also has more cache.
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Ashes of the singularity..

It was hitting 76C in a game?

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And until difficult questions regarding multi-core programming and real-time gaming (especially in terms of AI) are resolved, throwing "moar corez" ad infinitum without regard to IPC as you are advocating for is a fool's errand.

What questions? I spend quite a bit of time with mutithreaded programming and AI.

Multithreaded programming is about talent not about schools education. Never had problem with multithreaded games, and my home made stuff scaled to 200 cores without problems.
Main problem was: HT violated principle that stated on PC each core allows run application at full speed, and running half of the application on one core will not slow down with second half running on second core. Basically HT violated principle of ISOLATION. When each core isn't equal, it harms properly designed applications, and when loading ALL cores will provide much less execution time than one core * n, it kills possibility of applications that adapt theirs workload on number of cores.
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