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I'm just slightly ticked off since i got a 7700k around march when i was seeing if Ryzen or the 7700k was better for me, and as it turns out i need better single thread for my applications so the i7 it was. Now the 8700k bringing the same single threaded performance is here with two extra cores and four extra threads matching the 8 core ryzens in multithreading. Damn it.
Don't be upset, just upgrade to the i7 8700k and you will feel better.smile.gif
post #2732 of 5959
It looks like that asrock update their z370 description.Didnt saw before 4300MHz for memory.

I was thinking about Asus..like Hero/Apex for high memory clock.
But Taichi looking good , Z370 Extreme4 got nice improvements
over z270...VRM looks like in Taichi.

https://www.asrock.com/mb/compare.us.asp?Models=Z370%20Taichi,Z270%20Taichi,Z270%20Extreme4,Z370%20Extreme4
post #2733 of 5959
I'm beginning to think there will be no Z390 chipset. It has been Z370 only all along.

Z370 + K CPU's release on Oct 5.

Non-K CPU's + Lower end / Business chipsets in Q1 2018.

Why would they launch a Z390. Makes no sense. The features that people claimed would be on Z390, is to be found on Z370.

Improved Power Delivery for 6 Core processors
Enhanced Package Power Delivery For overclocking
Memory routing support for DDR4-2666
Rec.2020 & HDR Support, HEVC 10-bit HW Decode/Encode, VP9 10-bit HW Decode
Integrated USB 3.1 Gen2 (10 Gbps)
Support for integrated Intel wireless AC (WiFi 802.11ac R2 & Bluetooth 5)
Intel Optane memory support
Intel Smart Sound Technology with quad core audio DSP
24 Chipset PCIe 3.0 Lanes
10 USB 3.1 Ports With Up To 6 USB 3.1 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) Ports
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I'm beginning to think there will be no Z390 chipset. It has been Z370 only all along.

Z370 + K CPU's release on Oct 5.

Non-K CPU's + Lower end / Business chipsets in Q1 2018.

Why would they launch a Z390. Makes no sense. The features that people claimed would be on Z390, is to be found on Z370.
Because there's a rumored 8 core coffee lake coming and Intel being Intel they have to "redesign" power delivery for 8 cores compared to 6?

Maybe it's becoming a new tradition of bringing a new chipset out every 9 months or so for Intel

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Originally Posted by Lass3 View Post

Improved Power Delivery for 6 Core processors
Enhanced Package Power Delivery For overclocking
Memory routing support for DDR4-2666
Rec.2020 & HDR Support, HEVC 10-bit HW Decode/Encode, VP9 10-bit HW Decode
Integrated USB 3.1 Gen2 (10 Gbps)
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10 USB 3.1 Ports With Up To 6 USB 3.1 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) Ports
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Intel Rapid Storage Technology 16
PCIe 3.0 x4 Storage Support

Sure sure

Lo and behold all the new features compared to z270 courtesy of ASUS on one of it's high end boards (Formula)


Ohh, ahh
Now it's 2 RGB connectors, 5gbit Lan, a heatsink for M2 drives and a live dash display

Or the Apex


They sure go out of there way to highlight all the different chokes and power delivery, etter lanes for RAM OC'ing n stuff /s
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Lo and behold all the new features compared to z270 courtesy of ASUS on one of it's high end boards (Formula)


Ohh, ahh
Now it's 2 RGB connectors, 5gbit Lan, a heatsink for M2 drives and a live dash display

Or the Apex


They sure go out of there way to highlight all the different chokes and power delivery, etter lanes for RAM OC'ing n stuff /s

Well that doesn't help me choosing between these two frown.gif Formula is a more "complete" board but the Apex is badass.
 
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Well that doesn't help me choosing between these two frown.gif Formula is a more "complete" board but the Apex is badass.

Then go for the one that you think looks best

Apex is for even better OC'ing, especially RAM
But you also need the fitting RAM modules, means RAM kits rated for very high speeds
And a delid, obviously (or buying a delidded 8700k)

Manufacturers are already binning all the Samsung B-dies they can get to sell them in high rated kits


Personally I dig the Formulas cleaner look, but I wpuld be worried that the live dash would be blocked a bit by a graphics card

Or the lower port would block the view of the Asus logo

1st world problems for sure
But buying a Formula is already buying for it's looks
Edited by peter2k - 9/29/17 at 1:18am
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post #2737 of 5959
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Then go for the one that you think looks best

Apex is for even better OC'ing, especially RAM
But you also need the fitting RAM modules, means RAM kits rated for very high speeds
And a delid, obviously (or buying a delidded 8700k)

Manufacturers are already binning all the Samsung B-dies they can get to sell them in high rated kits

I'm getting a 8700K delidded from Silicon.
About the RAM I either go with 32Gb (3600) for ramdisk or 16Gb (4000) and no ramdisk with the Apex. I don't mind either.

About the look ... can't decide they both are very nice rolleyes.gif

EDIT : About the Apex and the dual power connector for the CPU : is the second one mandatory ? I would have to also change my PSU
Edited by bl4ckdot - 9/29/17 at 1:23am
 
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post #2738 of 5959
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Because there's a rumored 8 core coffee lake coming and Intel being Intel they have to "redesign" power delivery for 8 cores compared to 6?

Maybe it's becoming a new tradition of bringing a new chipset out every 9 months or so for Intel

You mean just like AMD's upcoming X470? wink.gif
10 months after release af X370.

This is good tho. I prefer new chipsets with new CPU's. I remember how terrible AMD has been in the past because of severly outdated chipsets and features.
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I'm getting a 8700K delidded from Silicon.
About the RAM I either go with 32Gb (3600) for ramdisk or 16Gb (4000) and no ramdisk with the Apex. I don't mind either.

About the look ... can't decide they both are very nice rolleyes.gif

biggrin.gif

There is no guarantee that the Apex can hit higher speeds than the Formula
It's also very high build quality biggrin.gif

The Formula should also do 4000, the Apex should be good for those 4500/4600 rated kits

At least that's my guess anyway

Those 4600 kits were certified with 2 modules only
Albeit on x299
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You mean just like AMD's upcoming X470? wink.gif
10 months after release af X370.

This is good tho. I prefer new chipsets with new CPU's. I remember how terrible AMD has been in the past because of severly outdated chipsets and features.

 

But in AMD's case, nothing stops you from running Zen 2 on X370 :P

 

Short of a BIOS update, obviously.

   
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