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so they're going to sell a 6C cpu for the same amount that AMD sells a 6c12t?

still not seeing what intel is doing here.
 
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so they're going to sell a 6C cpu for the same amount that AMD sells a 6c12t?

still not seeing what intel is doing here.

Ryzen's success is mostly off of enthusiasts who meticulously research specifications, and avoid brand loyalty. They buy whatever is best for their use cases. The best product wins their wallet.

There are a lot of mainstream customers out there who still think "Intel = quality, AMD = cheap and hot".

That mindshare is still extremely powerful, and means they won't completely give up their price difference with AMD. Not yet, at least.
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Ryzen's success is mostly off of enthusiasts who meticulously research specifications, and avoid brand loyalty. They buy whatever is best for their use cases. The best product wins their wallet.

There are a lot of mainstream customers out there who still think "Intel = quality, AMD = cheap and hot".

That mindshare is still extremely powerful, and means they won't completely give up their price difference with AMD. Not yet, at least.

that's not entirely wrong considering developers have been targeting intel as their lead platform for years now
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I have not owned an AMD cpu since athlon xp in college, which was the first PC I built myself. Enter ryzen and it was an absolute no brainer, but sadly for the most part you are correct that people think AMD is bad.....because they have been for so long.

The ryzen is bad in gaming argument is dead and gone, the only thing holding people back from buying ryzen is that is says AMD on the package.
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Ryzen's success is mostly off of enthusiasts who meticulously research specifications, and avoid brand loyalty. They buy whatever is best for their use cases. The best product wins their wallet.

Ryzen has also finally created a worthy upgrade path to those people who only exclusively buy AMD based on brand loyalty and/or on "moral" grounds.
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Ryzen has also finally created a worthy upgrade path to those people who only exclusively buy AMD based on brand loyalty and/or on "moral" grounds.

Yet those that only buy Intel dont suffer from brand royalty?
Also Moral arguments, whilst usually very difficult to levy and defend, are absolutely valid.
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Also Moral arguments, whilst usually very difficult to levy and defend, are absolutely valid.

If AMD was the big guy, and Intel was the little guy, there's a very good chance AMD would be the one locking everything down and Intel trying to open things up.

You could argue the same thing for nVIDIA vs AMD.

They're all big businesses, who want to turn a profit. They want your wallet. Thinking AMD is an angelic company is very naive thinking.

Now, I will admit, I do tend to incline towards AMD because of "moral" reasons (I like AMD better), but as a consumer (as in, what I'll actually spend money on), I will buy the best product for my use cases. Period.

As a consumer, you should always vote with your wallet on what the best product is, that's how innovation happens. Always buy the best product for the best price for your use case.

If you have a disposable income and don't care about price to performance and have the luxury of being able to buy a different brand purely on "morals", then just buy the most expensive Threadripper or i9, whichever you prefer, the end.
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If AMD was the big guy, and Intel was the little guy, there's a very good chance AMD would be the one locking everything down and Intel trying to open things up.

You could argue the same thing for nVIDIA vs AMD.

They're all big businesses, who want to turn a profit. They want your wallet. Thinking AMD is an angelic company is very naive thinking.

Now, I will admit, I do tend to incline towards AMD because of "moral" reasons (I like AMD better), but as a consumer (as in, what I'll actually spend money on), I will buy the best product for my use cases. Period.

As a consumer, you should always vote with your wallet on what the best product is, that's how innovation happens. Always buy the best product for the best price for your use case.

If you have a disposable income and don't care about price to performance and have the luxury of being able to buy a different brand purely on "morals", then just buy the most expensive Threadripper or i9, whichever you prefer, the end.

Did I ever state otherwise? I know very well that its possible (not certain though!) for AMD to act just as bad as Intel if they were in the position. And then, I will oppose them.

Seriously man, its a good post and I give a +1 but its obvious stuff tongue.gif . I already operate under those rules so no worries!

Admittedly some hate is directed at Intel as they are worse than Apple and Microsoft (and those 2 are powerhouses too) which means it is inferior in the types of people it employees in general. But still, if they were the underdog, the good of gaming and technology would mean I gotta be on their side.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ASRockInfo/status/891872117972545537


Will make a lot of you unhappy.

I personally don't care as I'm on Z77 and would actually prefer a new socket if it's shared with Ice Lake.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ASRockInfo/status/891872117972545537


Will make a lot of you unhappy.

I personally don't care as I'm on Z77 and would actually prefer a new socket if it's shared with Ice Lake.

Z370 and Z390?
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