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Why in the world would you not enable MCE on a 8700. You may need a better cpu cooler than what comes stock if you are doing anything more stressful than gaming, but thats free performance.

Free performance? In addition to the need for higher quality motherboards and cpu cooling, we have higher idle power consumption, higher load power consumption, higher load temps, higher voltage, and instability ...
Edited by Slomo4shO - 10/6/17 at 4:02pm
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Can you change the voltage on a non k cpu with mce enabled or on auto? I assume you need a z370 motherboard as well.
not that it will mean anything because things change but, i ran offset (-)voltage with MCE enable on this z77 in my rig and i5-2400 which worked like a treat.

swapping from an H67 board which wouldn't do it. very sparse bios in comparison. truth be told, i only got an i7K for benchmarks w/780ti. redface.gif
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Free performance? We have higher idle power consumption, higher load power consumption, higher load temps, higher voltage, instability, in addition to the need for higher quality motherboards and cpu cooling...

Eh were on an overclocking forum lol. The only valid point you bring up is cooling, i think the threshold for coffee is around the 4.6ghz mark, its very possible a 8700 can be cooled with stock cooler, gonna have to see a video.

I actually think tech deals ordered an 8700 non k yesterday, ill tweet to him to make sure he tests with MCE on for 10 minutes of prime or something (just anything more stressful than a user would see day to day).
Edited by Scotty99 - 10/6/17 at 4:07pm
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Eh were on an overclocking forum lol. The only valid point you bring up is cooling, i think the threshold for coffee is around the 4.6ghz mark, its very possible a 8700 can be cooled with stock cooler, gonna have to see a video.


42% increased power consumption for 8% gains...


You, Sir, are delusional if you think the stock cooler will cool a 8700 at 4.6 GHz while running above 1.35V...
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42% increased power consumption for 8% gains...


You, Sir, are delusional if you think the stock cooler will cool a 8700 at 4.6 GHz while running above 1.35V...

That was the k chip....

Again you are looking at this the completely wrong way. K chips shouldnt go anywhere near mce its worthless, its for LOCKED sku's. This is 300mhz of all core turbo which is HUGE. Again we dont know if 4600 can handle the stock cooler because steves video was at 4.7, if you have been an overclocker for long you know there are break points where volts massively increase temps, my guess is intel tuned the 8700 knowing users would be turning on MCE. Remember the 8700 is also a 65w chip, with only 100mhz less boost than 8700k, giving validity to my above point.
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https://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80684I58400-Core-i5-8400-Processor/dp/B0759FGJ3Q

8400 now says "In stock on October 10, 2017" which agrees with what Newegg reps were apparently saying about receiving more stock for other chips and why they're still available for backorder as well as the 8600k still says "temporarily our of stock" on Amazon.

I just ordered the rest of my hardware and changed the shipping speed on the 8600k.
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That was the k chip....


The same principals apply...


OC Wattage = TDP * ( OC MHz / Stock MHz) * ( OC Vcore / Stock Vcore )^2
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The same principals apply...


OC Wattage = TDP * ( OC MHz / Stock MHz) * ( OC Vcore / Stock Vcore )^2

Why are you on a crusade to tell people not to take advantage of free performance? You do realize that even with MCE on you get full downclocking/speedstep right? MCE now just puts all your cores at 4.6ghz when it detects a load, and back to 800mhz while your reading your emails.

We get confirmation the 8700 can overclock 300 mhz and we got people mad about it, this forum sometimes lol.
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Why are you on a crusade to tell people not to take advantage of free performance? You do realize that even with MCE on you get full downclocking/speedstep right? MCE now just puts all your cores at 4.6ghz when it detects a load, and back to 800mhz while your reading your emails.

We get confirmation the 8700 can overclock 300 mhz and we got people mad about it, this forum sometimes lol.

Yes and increases Voltage to the point where you need aftermarket cooling.
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Yes and increases Voltage to the point where you need aftermarket cooling.


Link plox?

Again these are 65w chips im talking about, there is a real possiblity even the potato cooler intel includes will handle everyday tasks with MCE enabled. The question is will it handle stress tests.....that no one in the situation were talking about will be running.
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