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8700K is as fast as 1700 in streaming and faster in gaming.
marginally
the upgrade path alone makss ryzen worth it
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marginally
the upgrade path alone makss ryzen worth it

What upgrade path? Zen 2? 2019-2020? In 3 years you can afford $120 MB lol. I bet to get most out of Zen 2 you will want the latest chip set/ motherboard.
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The longer you wait the better off you are. Just don't wait to long.

Yeah, I'm mostly into RPG and Hack & Slash games, thus my current setup isn't really a hindrance in those genres. However, there are some new titles I want to throw in the mix and I need a new GPU for that, so that is top priority. Once I get a GPU, then finally I can decide what route I want to take CPU wise. However, this year mining hindered my ability to get a decent card which is why it hasn't happened yet. Only now am I seeing prices being somewhat acceptable. Except not too long ago you could get a 1070 for $330, and I'm going to try to wait until it gets to that again at least because I say that is an acceptable price for such a card this late in the cycle.
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why do they even waste their time to test a game which CPU performance doesnt vary at all due to its optimization and use of low level API?

I think they are more leaning towards trying to replicate some real world scenarios of what you would encounter with modern gaming today. Showing that especially now with Vulkan and DX12 that the 2600k still holds up well. I'm sure more people will compare it to older architectures in upcoming videos that will do a more in-depth analysis with a 1080 Ti and some more CPU bound games. Perhaps, maybe even do some 720p runs. I'm sure HardOCP or Gamer's Nexus will do it eventually.
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People really overestimate how much processing power is needed when streaming.

While streaming at 3200 bit rate and recording with shadowplay, my cpu usage is around 40% on my 7820x while playing FortNite lol
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Yeah, I'm mostly into RPG and Hack & Slash games, thus my current setup isn't really a hindrance in those genres. However, there are some new titles I want to throw in the mix and I need a new GPU for that, so that is top priority. Once I get a GPU, then finally I can decide what route I want to take CPU wise. However, this year mining hindered my ability to get a decent card which is why it hasn't happened yet. Only now am I seeing prices being somewhat acceptable. Except not too long ago you could get a 1070 for $330, and I'm going to try to wait until it gets to that again at least because I say that is an acceptable price for such a card this late in the cycle.
I think they are more leaning towards trying to replicate some real world scenarios of what you would encounter with modern gaming today. Showing that especially now with Vulkan and DX12 that the 2600k still holds up well. I'm sure more people will compare it to older architectures in upcoming videos that will do a more in-depth analysis with a 1080 Ti and some more CPU bound games. Perhaps, maybe even do some 720p runs. I'm sure HardOCP or Gamer's Nexus will do it eventually.

Now testing 720p and picking CPU bound game in CPU bound parts of games is also pointless and waste of time. DF already does this. they show the extreme difference between CPUs but in the real world the difference is much smaller.
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Now testing 720p and picking CPU bound game in CPU bound parts of games is also pointless and waste of time. DF already does this. they show the extreme difference between CPUs but in the real world the difference is much smaller.

Well if you want to force it to become a CPU benchmark, and useful for comparing different CPUs; then you have no real choice other than 720p - 1080p runs in CPU heavy scenarios.

While real world difference is much smaller, it seems Hardware Canucks took care of that comparison.
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Well if you want to force it to become a CPU benchmark, and useful for comparing different CPUs; then you have no real choice other than 720p - 1080p runs in CPU heavy scenarios.

While real world difference is much smaller, it seems Hardware Canucks took care of that comparison.

Their problem is the GPU. 1080p + 1080 Ti is something people still use. Next year 1070 level card will be as fast as 1080 Ti. 720p is pointless. Nobody care if a CPU is 200 vs 250 fps faster.
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MY 8600K SHIPPED FROM NEWEGG AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

IT'S HAPPENING



I ordered half an hour after it was available for backorder on the 5th.
 
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Nice, wonder how many they got and if after they fulfill backorders will have any left lol.
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Their problem is the GPU. 1080p + 1080 Ti is something people still use. Next year 1070 level card will be as fast as 1080 Ti. 720p is pointless. Nobody care if a CPU is 200 vs 250 fps faster.

I think GPU is fine. I think you are more likely to encounter someone with a 1070 and a 1080p monitor than a 1080 Ti and a 1080p monitor. While it is true with Volta a 1070 level card will be as fast as a 1080 Ti. Who knows what is going on in NVIDIA's mind. If they are planning on releasing a 1070 Ti do not expect to see anything related to Volta until next summer or spring minimum. Meaning, looking that far into the future relying on a 2070 or 1170 that is as fast as a 1080 Ti right now is more pointless. Lastly, it has nothing to do with 200 vs 250 fps. It is done to show which CPUs bottleneck high end graphics cards. Only recently have graphics cards gotten so fast, that you can run the test in 1080p and get similar results now as when they used to do 720p.
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