Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [Various] 6-Core Coffee Lake Lineup: i7-8700K & i5-8600K / Official Reviews & Benchmarks (Update 19)
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Various] 6-Core Coffee Lake Lineup: i7-8700K & i5-8600K / Official Reviews & Benchmarks (Update 19) - Page 518

post #5171 of 5910
Quote:
Originally Posted by DStealth View Post

3800 cr1 was slower than 3940 cr2 tested...Aida and Spi32m. Higher is not possible on this BIOS and board(Z370) maybe IMC.
On the other hand i have a screenshot with 38xx 1T on 7800x platform and HT on ...was worst in 6.15 range...
Anyway 1T with 4 dimms was also not possible at the moment on z370 tried as low as 3Ghz....mad.gif

So basically +140mhz with the same cas latency and CR2 is enough to more than offset CR1 as long as you equalize the trfc?
Neat.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DStealth View Post

I tested it myself 7800x@5050Mhz with 2666 cl16 XMP mem and 2400Mhz Mesh (stock) in Valley pushed in low 150FPS extremeHD preset. and Aida ~60-70mb/s with 70-80ns
With just memory @4000 16-16-16-30-300 1T and Mesh@3200/3300 Valley went to 171-2 (20fps difference) while the same CPU/GPU speed was maintained and Aida64 to 105mb/s with less than 50ns
It's quite a huge difference like night and day and as many reviews are showing results with stock values people are claimg Sl-X as non-gaming CPU which from my experience is totally wrong....I have both 7800x and 8700k while maximum optimized both are acting pretty similar there are situations where x4 L2 cache is helping 7800x +quad channel, there are some where +Mhz on 8700k are in favor...
Here's a third party comparison take a look at 3dmark draw calls deeply - https://imgur.com/a/XU6na smile.gif
There's a guy with 4x8GB 4200CL16 and 3400 NB clock with 46.4ns. Some cpus can get up to 3500-3600 NB on ambient cooling.
Edited by czin125 - 10/23/17 at 6:21am
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6850 evga 680i a1 XFX 5770 11.7_Drivers_Aug15-2011) 4GB DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
320 GB SATA Windows 7 Ultimate x86 22inch display 1680x1050 750W Silverstone 
Case
antec 900 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
E6850 evga 680i a1 XFX 5770 11.7_Drivers_Aug15-2011) 4GB DDR2 800 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
320 GB SATA Windows 7 Ultimate x86 22inch display 1680x1050 750W Silverstone 
Case
antec 900 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5172 of 5910
Quote:
Originally Posted by bl4ckdot View Post

Official response (der8auer actually responded to my caseking's email) is : 1.42V is fine, there was no error.
The page was a copy-paste of the 7700K Ultra edition and that was where the 1.4V come from. That was a mistake.

So yeah, all in all nothing much to say. They test the CPU before swaping the HIS (and maybe before delid, not sure about that) and I maybe won't need to go that high. Der8auer was told by Intel that 1.52V is the limit.

How much did you pay?
Ishimura
(21 items)
 
Silent Knight
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.6GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX eVGA GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid AVEXIR Blitz 1.1 16GB DDR3-2400MHz CL10 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
SanDisk Ultra II 960GB Toshiba X300 5TB Corsair H100i GTX eVGA Hybrid Water Cooler  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
4x GentleTyphoon AP-15 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC 4K Razer BlackWidow Chroma  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
eVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 Define Nano S Logitech G502 Proteus Core PECHAM Gaming Mouse Pad XX-Large 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Audioengine D1 DAC Mackie CR Series CR3 Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Sennheiser HD 598 
Audio
Sony XB950BT 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 4.2GHz ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB @ 1200/1500 2x 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 60GB WD Caviar Green 1.5TB 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
EK-FC7970 XSPC RS360 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Corsair TX750 
Case
NZXT Switch 810  
  hide details  
Reply
Ishimura
(21 items)
 
Silent Knight
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.6GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX eVGA GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid AVEXIR Blitz 1.1 16GB DDR3-2400MHz CL10 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
SanDisk Ultra II 960GB Toshiba X300 5TB Corsair H100i GTX eVGA Hybrid Water Cooler  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
4x GentleTyphoon AP-15 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC 4K Razer BlackWidow Chroma  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
eVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 Define Nano S Logitech G502 Proteus Core PECHAM Gaming Mouse Pad XX-Large 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Audioengine D1 DAC Mackie CR Series CR3 Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Sennheiser HD 598 
Audio
Sony XB950BT 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 4.2GHz ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB @ 1200/1500 2x 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 60GB WD Caviar Green 1.5TB 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
EK-FC7970 XSPC RS360 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Corsair TX750 
Case
NZXT Switch 810  
  hide details  
Reply
post #5173 of 5910
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

How much did you pay?
https://www.caseking.de/en/der8auer-core-i7-8700k-5-1-ghz-ultra-edition-cpbu-161.html
 
Styx Mk V
(21 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 8700K Ultra Edition Asus ROG Maximus X Formula ? NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB (4x 8 GB) 3600 MHz CL16 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 960 PRO 512 GB Samsung 850 EVO 1 TB Samsung 850 EVO 1 TB SanDisk Ultra II 1 TB 
CoolingOSPower
EK MLC ? Windows 10 Pro 64 Bits  Seasonic PRIME 1000 W Titanium 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 4790K [4.7GHz] Asus ROG Maximus VII Hero NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) Corsair Vengeance Pro 2400 C11 [16Go] 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 [2To] Samsung 840 EVO [250Go] SanDisk Ultra II [1To] EKWB Predator 360 [Push/Pull] 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
EKWB Titan XP GPU Block Windows 10 Pro 64 Bits Dell S2716DG Dell UP2516D 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair K70 Antec HCP 750 Platinum Phanteks Enthoo Primo Logitech G502 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
HyperX Fury S Pro XL Blue Yeti Focal Elear Audeze Deckard 
Other
1Gbps Fiber Optic  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7 6700HQ GeForce GTX 960M 16 Gb DDR4 2133 MHz (2 x 8 Go) Samsung 950 Pro 256Go 
Hard DriveOSMonitor
WD 1To 5400RPM Windows 10 64 Bits 4K Ultra HD 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Styx Mk V
(21 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 8700K Ultra Edition Asus ROG Maximus X Formula ? NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB (4x 8 GB) 3600 MHz CL16 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 960 PRO 512 GB Samsung 850 EVO 1 TB Samsung 850 EVO 1 TB SanDisk Ultra II 1 TB 
CoolingOSPower
EK MLC ? Windows 10 Pro 64 Bits  Seasonic PRIME 1000 W Titanium 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 4790K [4.7GHz] Asus ROG Maximus VII Hero NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) Corsair Vengeance Pro 2400 C11 [16Go] 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 [2To] Samsung 840 EVO [250Go] SanDisk Ultra II [1To] EKWB Predator 360 [Push/Pull] 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
EKWB Titan XP GPU Block Windows 10 Pro 64 Bits Dell S2716DG Dell UP2516D 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair K70 Antec HCP 750 Platinum Phanteks Enthoo Primo Logitech G502 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
HyperX Fury S Pro XL Blue Yeti Focal Elear Audeze Deckard 
Other
1Gbps Fiber Optic  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7 6700HQ GeForce GTX 960M 16 Gb DDR4 2133 MHz (2 x 8 Go) Samsung 950 Pro 256Go 
Hard DriveOSMonitor
WD 1To 5400RPM Windows 10 64 Bits 4K Ultra HD 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5174 of 5910

That does seem like a lot for 1.42v. Dont all 8700K can do 5.0GHz?
Ishimura
(21 items)
 
Silent Knight
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.6GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX eVGA GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid AVEXIR Blitz 1.1 16GB DDR3-2400MHz CL10 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
SanDisk Ultra II 960GB Toshiba X300 5TB Corsair H100i GTX eVGA Hybrid Water Cooler  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
4x GentleTyphoon AP-15 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC 4K Razer BlackWidow Chroma  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
eVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 Define Nano S Logitech G502 Proteus Core PECHAM Gaming Mouse Pad XX-Large 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Audioengine D1 DAC Mackie CR Series CR3 Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Sennheiser HD 598 
Audio
Sony XB950BT 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 4.2GHz ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB @ 1200/1500 2x 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 60GB WD Caviar Green 1.5TB 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
EK-FC7970 XSPC RS360 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Corsair TX750 
Case
NZXT Switch 810  
  hide details  
Reply
Ishimura
(21 items)
 
Silent Knight
(13 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.6GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX eVGA GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid AVEXIR Blitz 1.1 16GB DDR3-2400MHz CL10 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
SanDisk Ultra II 960GB Toshiba X300 5TB Corsair H100i GTX eVGA Hybrid Water Cooler  
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
4x GentleTyphoon AP-15 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Philips Brilliance BDM4065UC 4K Razer BlackWidow Chroma  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
eVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 Define Nano S Logitech G502 Proteus Core PECHAM Gaming Mouse Pad XX-Large 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Audioengine D1 DAC Mackie CR Series CR3 Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Sennheiser HD 598 
Audio
Sony XB950BT 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 4.2GHz ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB @ 1200/1500 2x 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 60GB WD Caviar Green 1.5TB 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB XSPC Raystorm 
CoolingCoolingOSPower
EK-FC7970 XSPC RS360 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Corsair TX750 
Case
NZXT Switch 810  
  hide details  
Reply
post #5175 of 5910
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

That does seem like a lot for 1.42v. Dont all 8700K can do 5.0GHz?

I most probably won't need that much voltage as he said. Can't test for now, still waiting for the Formula ^^
 
Styx Mk V
(21 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 8700K Ultra Edition Asus ROG Maximus X Formula ? NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB (4x 8 GB) 3600 MHz CL16 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 960 PRO 512 GB Samsung 850 EVO 1 TB Samsung 850 EVO 1 TB SanDisk Ultra II 1 TB 
CoolingOSPower
EK MLC ? Windows 10 Pro 64 Bits  Seasonic PRIME 1000 W Titanium 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 4790K [4.7GHz] Asus ROG Maximus VII Hero NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) Corsair Vengeance Pro 2400 C11 [16Go] 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 [2To] Samsung 840 EVO [250Go] SanDisk Ultra II [1To] EKWB Predator 360 [Push/Pull] 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
EKWB Titan XP GPU Block Windows 10 Pro 64 Bits Dell S2716DG Dell UP2516D 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair K70 Antec HCP 750 Platinum Phanteks Enthoo Primo Logitech G502 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
HyperX Fury S Pro XL Blue Yeti Focal Elear Audeze Deckard 
Other
1Gbps Fiber Optic  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7 6700HQ GeForce GTX 960M 16 Gb DDR4 2133 MHz (2 x 8 Go) Samsung 950 Pro 256Go 
Hard DriveOSMonitor
WD 1To 5400RPM Windows 10 64 Bits 4K Ultra HD 
  hide details  
Reply
 
Styx Mk V
(21 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 8700K Ultra Edition Asus ROG Maximus X Formula ? NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB (4x 8 GB) 3600 MHz CL16 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 960 PRO 512 GB Samsung 850 EVO 1 TB Samsung 850 EVO 1 TB SanDisk Ultra II 1 TB 
CoolingOSPower
EK MLC ? Windows 10 Pro 64 Bits  Seasonic PRIME 1000 W Titanium 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 4790K [4.7GHz] Asus ROG Maximus VII Hero NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) Corsair Vengeance Pro 2400 C11 [16Go] 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 [2To] Samsung 840 EVO [250Go] SanDisk Ultra II [1To] EKWB Predator 360 [Push/Pull] 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
EKWB Titan XP GPU Block Windows 10 Pro 64 Bits Dell S2716DG Dell UP2516D 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair K70 Antec HCP 750 Platinum Phanteks Enthoo Primo Logitech G502 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
HyperX Fury S Pro XL Blue Yeti Focal Elear Audeze Deckard 
Other
1Gbps Fiber Optic  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel i7 6700HQ GeForce GTX 960M 16 Gb DDR4 2133 MHz (2 x 8 Go) Samsung 950 Pro 256Go 
Hard DriveOSMonitor
WD 1To 5400RPM Windows 10 64 Bits 4K Ultra HD 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5176 of 5910
Quote:
Originally Posted by bl4ckdot View Post

Official response (der8auer actually responded to my caseking's email) is : 1.42V is fine, there was no error.
The page was a copy-paste of the 7700K Ultra edition and that was where the 1.4V come from. That was a mistake.

So yeah, all in all nothing much to say. They test the CPU before swaping the HIS (and maybe before delid, not sure about that) and I maybe won't need to go that high. Der8auer was told by Intel that 1.52V is the limit.


Thx for the update. Fair enough, I assume the page with the product that I ordered ("Pro" edition) will updated too when I launch an inquiry so I won't bother. I'll just take it as it is but it's just that the cpu would have been a bit more exclusive at 1.4v than at 1.42v

I was hoping for e.g an easy 5.2Ghz @ 1.38v which could even be squeezed to 5.3Ghz@1.42v but now I know I can let go of those hopes smile.gif

anyway no update on my order status yet so it looks like I might be waiting long for my cpu to arrive. You probably lucked out getting ours out of the first batch. Let's hope the cpu doesn't arrive later than the motherboard in my case...
post #5177 of 5910
Havent seen a 5300 8700k stable in the wild yet. I have installed my 5200 Ultra now and it works with the 1.38 volts on the cpu. I have to input 1.4 in the Bios and with LL calibration of 5 in Prime 29.3 (Custom run no AVX) it logs in 1.376 Volts were it runs fine for an hour. Also passed Asus Realbench (with AVX offset of 3) even with XMP on with my 3466 MHZ memory on 5200 and Cache OC to 4600. Temps are 74 max on monoblock and custom EK colling solution with 560mm radiator in push pull.

Less volts system boots but stability tests start to fail so I work on the max there. Cinebench Multi core score of 1724 and single core 227. So I am super happy with my CPU.
Edited by stefxyz - 10/23/17 at 8:12am
post #5178 of 5910
thx, that's useful information for me to compare. I believe user TKnight got his stable to 5.3Ghz. In your case I would expect you can still up your NB beyond 4600Mhz and reach 230-235 singlethread scores
post #5179 of 5910
So many varying reports on stock lol. Just opened a chat with B+H and they said end of november....silicon lottery still says 10/31, and i think newegg was saying beginning of november-ish.

As an aside, you guys think 5.0ghz is possible without a delid on a be quiet dark rock pro 3?
Edited by Scotty99 - 10/23/17 at 8:29am
Steve
(9 items)
 
HTPC
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Ryzen 7 1700 3.9@1.376v Asrock Killer x370 SLI/AC EVGA GTX 1060 SSC 6gb Gskill ripjaws 3200/2933 14-16-16-36 
Hard DriveCoolingMonitorPower
Seagate firecuda 1tb Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 Dell S2417DG EVGA 650 GQ 
Case
NZXT H440 Matte Black 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Pentium G4560 Asrock H110M-ITX PNY GT 1030 4GB Team Dark 2400  
Hard DriveMonitorKeyboardCase
PNY CS900 240gb SSD Vizio Smartcast E55 Logitech K400 Inwin BP655.300 
Audio
Vizio 3.1 Soundbar 
  hide details  
Reply
Steve
(9 items)
 
HTPC
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Ryzen 7 1700 3.9@1.376v Asrock Killer x370 SLI/AC EVGA GTX 1060 SSC 6gb Gskill ripjaws 3200/2933 14-16-16-36 
Hard DriveCoolingMonitorPower
Seagate firecuda 1tb Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 Dell S2417DG EVGA 650 GQ 
Case
NZXT H440 Matte Black 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Pentium G4560 Asrock H110M-ITX PNY GT 1030 4GB Team Dark 2400  
Hard DriveMonitorKeyboardCase
PNY CS900 240gb SSD Vizio Smartcast E55 Logitech K400 Inwin BP655.300 
Audio
Vizio 3.1 Soundbar 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5180 of 5910
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty99 View Post

So many varying reports on stock lol. Just opened a chat with B+H and they said end of november....silicon lottery still says 10/31, and i think newegg was saying beginning of november-ish.

As an aside, you guys think 5.0ghz is possible without a delid on a be quiet dark rock pro 3?

not likely. my 7700k's max oc without delid was 4.9ghz and it was hitting 90+ degrees on aida64 for the first couple of minutes so I can't really call it stable. (with a 280mm rad aio h115i gtx) after delid my 5GHz temps never hits 70's after overnight stress testing lol
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Hardware News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [Various] 6-Core Coffee Lake Lineup: i7-8700K & i5-8600K / Official Reviews & Benchmarks (Update 19)