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Looks like an average chip. Still happy with the switch from x79. Will try my luck later on with another 8700k.
    
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To be fair, you don't NEED 3200+ speed RAM. Running higher speed RAM is not MANDATORY with Ryzen. Besides, anything higher than 3200 speed the gains are minimal at best, and certainly not enough to warrant the higher price tag. Don't get me wrong, various reviews have pointed out that Ryzen does show FPS gains in some games, but not all and I think that's another thing to consider. Just because you pop in 3200 Samsung B-die RAM doesn't automatically mean you're going to see gains across the entirety of your game library. The gains are subjective. So while the 3200+ speed RAM is nice to have for Ryzen, it is not required.

Well you kinda do if you want it to be competitive. I waited for 4-5 months before Agesa 1.0.0.6 was available on my motherboard so my 3200MHz Trident Z kit was stuck at 2400MHz the whole time. Performance was far from desirable my 1700x really strugged with games like Dota 2 even with VR games I was noticing a lot of frame drops fortunately once the first Agesa 1.0.0.6 was available it worked at 3066MHz right away and the performance difference was huge! in Dota 2 I think it was at least 20fps gain in minimum fps. now I have it at 3333MHz (the same kit) performance is a lot better than it used to be but still nowhere near Intel performance in gaming. don't get me wrong I'm only talking about gaming. pretty much anything else aside from gaming it rekt my 7700k but now my 8700k is faster in everything.
 
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thats kinda the point though isn't it, the ryzen was designed to be competitive against the 7th gen chips not the 8th gen, which were released 7 months early due to intel losing the top spot (ignoring ryzens first generation problems like inability to get to 5GHz on water)

the theory is that with a 5 year chipset the second generation is that it will do 5GHz on later generations and outstrip intel cpu's (but likely wont beat them in intel based programming like the majority of games or common software) where ryzen outperformed was that it beat a stock intel without being overclocked in multitasking like playing games and streaming whilst listening to music and maybe running a browser tab or 20 (pretty much like the way fx always did 5 years ago) but pure single task stuff intel has never been beaten on performance....

time will tell how things pan out but it seems like intel/amd collaboration is starting so chances are in another decade they will be a single entity....
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Eh there are already games that play better on 6c chips, what are you on about? I can easily see ryzen 7 being an overall better gaming CPU to the 7700k in 3 years time, despite its clockspeed deficiencies. In some games core count matters so much that ive seen fx chips surpassing overclocked sandy bridge i5's, something i would never have predicted in 2011......yet it happened.
Name all the games that a 6 core runs better on?smile.gif
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Name all the games that a 6 core runs better on?smile.gif

Shouldn't be hard to find out. Look up Ryzen 5 1500X vs 1600 performance results. The only differences are 4c/8t vs 6c/12t, and the 1500X actually has a clock speed advantage.
 
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Name all the games that a 6 core runs better on?smile.gif

Shouldn't be hard to find out. Look up Ryzen 5 1500X vs 1600 performance results. The only differences are 4c/8t vs 6c/12t, and the 1500X actually has a clock speed advantage.
I looked it up and the 4 core i7 7700k does better than the 6 core Ryzen.tongue.gif
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Got it up and running:



Looks like an average chip. Still happy with the switch from x79. Will try my luck later on with another 8700k.

What did you get? Nice matte black, me likes it.

Btw, is that a JetFlo over the HDDs? biggrin.gif
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I looked it up and the 4 core i7 7700k does better than the 6 core Ryzen.tongue.gif

There is a reason I said Ryzen 5 1500X vs 1600. Are you that naive? The question was 4 cores vs 6 cores, or more specifically games' ability to benefit from 6 cores over 4. Comparing the i7 7700k to Ryzen 5 has too many other factors such as completely different architecture, cache, and frequency range. You will probably then think to compare the i7 7700k to the 8700k but even that does not satisfy the question since the 8700k has more cache, and modern games like that added L3 cache.
 
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What did you get? Nice matte black, me likes it.

Btw, is that a JetFlo over the HDDs? biggrin.gif

8700k, Apex mobo and some new ram. Came from an x79 set up.

That's an intel 750 NVMe with an EK block.smile.gif
    
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So, what does your average chip show ? 5.1..5.2+ benchable ?
Edit: Just pushed my 4*8gb memories to 14-13-13 with 1.45v thumb.gif

Edited by DStealth - 11/18/17 at 9:57pm
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