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Coffee lake will have six cores, 200MHz increase in clock speed from 14nm++.wink.gif
yes still probably same IPC as skylake and similar OC abiliy
  
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I expect the i7 8700k to run as hot and cost the same as the i7 7800X .mad.gif


yeah

since it won't be soldered


but it should clock higher and have better IPC (should still use ring bus like kaby) than skylake-x
5Ghz (hmm, maybe a tad more on average) kaby with 2 more cores
sounds good

throw in some eDRAM as icing on the cake

I'd be happy about the chip (minus me having to delid the thing) if I wouldn't have to throw out a perfectly good and great mainboard

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I'm not sure how much it matters if USB 3.1 gen 2 is off the chipset?

mmm

well first I was trying to point out that the new features are nothing to go all crazy about
we're not talking a jump between SATA 1.0 to M2 and SATA 3.0
also USB 3.1 should already be integrated
it's just getting a bump in speed

it's Wifi that gets integrated

secondly
ASmedia is always inferiour, always has been

thirdly

like I said
it's a nice touch for mobile, means laptops
for desktop, ehh

more features in the chipset instead of third party means more room under the hood
means potentionally more space for battery (or alternatively thinner device)
and usually it's more power efficient
again
a nice touch for mobile things
but its still only by a hand full of watts

and finally fourth

USB 3.1 gen 2 doubles the speed of gen 1
all you need is periphery to actually support that speed
and have a need to pay that premium

like I said
lame features to buy a new board for

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I'm more on being rebellious about Intel pulling their petty BS.

I'm seeing it the same way

just some BS from Intel

if they can make a 7700k fit into HEDT then they could fit a coffee lake into z170/z270
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Much higher risk of destroying the CPU with the razor blade method though, especially if its your first rodeo.

well even if you got experience

the more core chips also tend to have more stuff under the IHS that can potentionally be broken


skylake-x seems to be difficult enough to delid, even with tools, that silicon lottery didn't want to do a delid service for those in the beginning
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Coffee lake will have six cores, 200MHz increase in clock speed from 14nm++.wink.gif
yes still probably same IPC as skylake and similar OC abiliy
Folks will be able to clock from 5.0GHz kaby lake to 5.2GHz with coffee lake with good cooling.biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by wingman99 View Post

I expect the i7 8700k to run as hot and cost the same as the i7 7800X .mad.gif


yeah

since it won't be soldered


but it should clock higher and have better IPC (should still use ring bus like kaby) than skylake-x
5Ghz (hmm, maybe a tad more on average) kaby with 2 more cores
sounds good

throw in some eDRAM as icing on the cake

I'd be happy about the chip (minus me having to delid the thing) if I wouldn't have to throw out a perfectly good and great mainboard
Yes I hate to throw away my great Gigabyte Z170 HD3.
Edited by wingman99 - 9/1/17 at 1:32pm
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Folks will be able to clock from 5.0GHz kaby lake to 5.2GHz with coffee lake with good cooling.biggrin.gif


If by good you mean phase change, then sure.

     
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Folks will be able to clock from 5.0GHz kaby lake to 5.2GHz with coffee lake with good cooling.biggrin.gif


If by good you mean phase change, then sure.
I predict with coffee lake at 5.2GHz it will need less Vcore than kaby lake at 5.0GHz.
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That'd be a hell of a trick after adding two cores, but stranger things have happened.

     
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That'd be a hell of a trick after adding two cores, but stranger things have happened.
More cores is increased AMPs, not Core voltage.
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More cores is increased AMPs, not Core voltage.

I hope current requirement will not increase as well. biggrin.gif
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More cores is increased AMPs, not Core voltage.

I hope current requirement will not increase as well. biggrin.gif
AMPs= current.biggrin.gif
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