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I took the time to spoiler-tag it, so yes, I looked at it. I see where 14nm++ is offering increased performance to 14nm, but the dynamic capacitance (voltage scaling) is level for all 14nm variants (and 10nm variants relative to 10nm).

That's power usage - they're showing all three processes at the same voltage, basically, and power staying the same while performance improves notably.

At the same volts we just know that 14nm did 4.7ghz, 14nm+ did 5.0ghz and that jump to 14nm++ is supposed to be several times larger - similar gains apply to both low and high clock speeds.
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Z370 boards aren't out yet and that's what's needed for Coffee Lake.


Z370 is not yet out and ppl are already talking about Z390.


But knowing Intel pattern, they might release Z470 within 6 months haha.
I want to upgrade to both the Z370 and Z390 I hope it's every six months like you say.biggrin.gif
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Don't get me wrong i love intel but this whole 6 month cycle is getting annoying lol
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Because there's no source there, I'll say this:

Unless they had a fresh batch of the TIM that Intel uses so they could recreate an actual test scenario, rather than re-using what was on the chip already, the quote is a bit misguided.

You should always see positive results with an enthusiast grade TIM, however.
there source is linked in the article but it was comparing HWR TIM which is probably the same as SKL TIM. also as bad as a TIM from 1974, that is just silicone based tim
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Neither are the CPU's - So it's all good..
it makes sense to wait the platform news if z370 wil have the same compatibility as Z270 only 1 cycle rolleyes.gif
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Skylake was Q3'15, kaby lake Q1'17 coffee lake Q4'17. I don't see six months yet.wink.gif
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Launch date and reviews?
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Launch date and reviews?

I would think October. They still have yet to announce when they will release.
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That's power usage - they're showing all three processes at the same voltage, basically, and power staying the same while performance improves notably.

At the same volts we just know that 14nm did 4.7ghz, 14nm+ did 5.0ghz and that jump to 14nm++ is supposed to be several times larger - similar gains apply to both low and high clock speeds.

That I understood and agreed with. What I'm saying is that the power requirements and thermal characteristics at a given voltage are not going to be reduced in any significant way. At a KL quad-core 5GHz level, we're already talking about delids and excellent cooling if you're interested in real stability. My contention is that adding two cores to the package is going to mitigate some of those process gains in terms of power and thus thermals. 5GHz will, in my opinion, again be the province of delids and custom loops and the tap out point for the majority of setups. I'll be happy to be wrong, but I'll need to see proof in practical testing before I'm sold on 14nm++ being so revolutionary.
     
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6 months is better than 6 years. biggrin.gif

RiP Sandy Bridge 2011-2017.
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That I understood and agreed with. What I'm saying is that the power requirements and thermal characteristics at a given voltage are not going to be reduced in any significant way. At a KL quad-core 5GHz level, we're already talking about delids and excellent cooling if you're interested in real stability. My contention is that adding two cores to the package is going to mitigate some of those process gains in terms of power and thus thermals. 5GHz will, in my opinion, again be the province of delids and custom loops and the tap out point for the majority of setups. I'll be happy to be wrong, but I'll need to see proof in practical testing before I'm sold on 14nm++ being so revolutionary.

Not really. I've hit 5 GHz on a 7700K no delid using a 80$ AIO
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